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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Coming out of Beta...

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pixelchef said:
Gotta ask: We're #712, and going to be using Nikon lenses exclusively. It'd be really depressing to get our cam next month or so and not use it until the Nikon mount is available. Is there a provision to allow waiting to receive the camera once the Nikon mount is shipping as well? *praying* :biggrin:
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Sorry man... no more provisions. You dont need to worry about your cam not being used if you take delivery of it though, im sure you can keep it busy in the rental market until the Nikon mount is done :)
 
Jarred Land said:
Sorry man... no more provisions. You dont need to worry about your cam not being used if you take delivery of it though, im sure you can keep it busy in the rental market until the Nikon mount is done :)
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You think the rental market will improve that much? Here's to hoping that once 14 and 15 go through people besides multi-million features will start renting.
 
there are tons of owners out there that have cameras working overtime nonstop in the rental market, and teaming up with rental houses.
 
Thanks for the answer Jim, I wonder if we will see this build before summer?

Missing deadlines are not such a big deal Jim... Look at the improvements that have come about from missing deadlines.

Method
 
I understand your pain Shawn. The rental market in Portland is night and day compared to that of Los Angeles.

It can be a frightening thing to have an extremely expensive of equipment sitting on the shelf instead of making money.

Teaming up with a rental house is a good idea, if there's one around. If you are like me, there is only one rental house in the area, and they don't want to share revenue with me.. They are simply waiting to see how this goes, and then they will jump in themselves.

I might suggest a "show". Send out some invitations to the DPs in your area to come see your RED and answer questions. It may help drum up business.. Show that camera to anyone who will look at it.. Of course, you may already be doing this.

Be patient, you will fiind your groove and make your money back in your own way. I have faith in you!

Jay
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Be patient, you will fiind your groove and make your money back in your own way. I have faith in you!

Jay
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Thanks, I'm okay! I have quotes out for Feb and several interested parties for March/April. Besides, I've got one of the baddest-mofo kitted Red's out there :-)
 
Antoine Fabi said:
Brent,

Maybe it's my poor english...

I have #403 reservation..., made the deposit long time ago etc...

I tried today to order accessories before making a global wire transfer next week.

I ended receiving a order form including a new camera...

I'm not able to have an invoice with my #403 camera, minus the original deposit, plus acessories, minus the 2500$ credit.

I sent a email to sales@red... waiting.

the store/account is really difficult to work with...really...

Now, how do i see my account ?

I want my camera and accessories, and i'm ready to pay next week.

thanks
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The BOMB SQUAD is getting to emails as quickly as they can. And, remember, they are standing by their phones from 8am-5pm PT, Monday-Friday. Feel free to call in if you have any questions.

We have also announced in other threads that the online is under the revision process to more easily accommodate at once orders. We spent a long time only in the "deposit" world so we are updating to be easier for "buy now" for people having cameras already and pending delivery.

We are prepping an email blast now to #301-#500 letting them know the information you seek.

Hope that helps,
BC
 
Mike said:
I have sent sales@red an email too, about transferring the deposit i paid for 18-85mm to the 18-50mm lens. Awaiting the reply so that I can make the final payment to Red.
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Yes, the deposit is still applicable if you switch from 18-85 to 18-50.

BC
 
Shawn Nelson said:
Thanks, I'm okay! I have quotes out for Feb and several interested parties for March/April. Besides, I've got one of the baddest-mofo kitted Red's out there :-)
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i think some great ideas like Daniel Reichenbach with launching www.redstockshots.com will help so much introducing us as redowners in our regions.
 
Jannard said:
Our "Video Build" is still in the works. But the whole schedule has been pushed back with all the changes and improvements we have been making to the camera and firmware. We haven't forgotten. No time frame announced. That way, we can't miss a deadline. :-)

Jim
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Jim, sorry to ask, but what about 2K scaled ?
Is it still coming, or definatly not ?
:unsure:

Thanks,
Nils.
 
Jarred Land said:
there are tons of owners out there that have cameras working overtime nonstop in the rental market, and teaming up with rental houses.
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The rental business is a difficult one to get into as a end user. If I was to rent I would do it through a Rental house to be safe.

There is already reports of one camera missing in action due to rental.

If you are plugged into your local production environment and know plenty of people that would rent off of you then it's less of a problem, but renting out to people you meet while showcasing the camera on "open days" could be dangerous.

My personal theory is as cameras get cheaper; DP/operators/fp might be required to have there own kit. In the low budget feature market this can make you very attractive to producers and almost double your fee.

This will save the production time and money as you will be maintaining your own kit and prep/testing days might become a thing of the past.

On the last film I shot we spent over £25.000 on stock and developing and the last thing one wants to do at the end of a shooting day is sit in a meeting being told that you need to save stock!

Thats why I want a RED! but I do love working with film, the fuji ETERNA Vivid 160 is berry nice.....

OK I might be getting off topic here, but now that I've writen it I might as well post :help: sorry
 
I don't think I have EVER made a single post against Jim or RED and his fantastic team.


HOWEVER, after receiving the ULTIMATUM e-mail this morning, I got very FRUSTRATED and UPSET!


When I first made the reservation for #349 and as soon as I had the extra two Gs made reservations for #851 & #852, I dumped the purchase of the already prearranged deal for a

VIPER Filmstream (originally chosen after taking in consideration the advises and suggestions from David Mullen ).


After that it has been an incredible ride, from preconception to the great experience at NAB Las Vegas 06 ( not the part were I got lost with Kelly and half the RED team wile giving them a ride to the hotel, sorry again about that )

and now finally having plaid and seen amazing footage created by the many cameras out.


I attended and provided with any FREE services that I could, in order to help this community, but most importantly to give RED cameras as much exposure as possible and my complete support.


I supported RED in any discussions from day one, I went out of my way in any way in support of RED (even when less then healthy) I felt as if for the first time in my miserable life,

I was wryly part of something great and totally believed the RED team and postponed all my projects and the way over do, return to Italy, and this project and this community has been for the past two years more then a family.


Now I fill that RED has just "STUBBED" me in the back!


I'm selling my own home in order to get my REDs but the real estate market (which has already costed me a great deal of money ) is making it very hard to sale,
I continue to work in various prospects in order to get financing for the cameras and truly hope I can make the dead line.

However if I can not make it, I have no problem been pushed back to the end of the line ( even after waiting for almost two years ).


WHAT I do have a big problem with is the fact that I will loose my res. # and so look as if I talked peoples head off about this incredible camera but I don't even have a low reservation number to prove it.


Obviously is not just about proving anything to any one, it is about proving it to my self, and the fact that I stand it behind a product from the begin paid off and I have an early serial number to prove it.


At the end of the day if I fail to provide for financials to allow me to get my #349, then I will most absolutely get my REDs no matter what in what ever #serial number available,

because I still do very much believe in this cameras and the absolutely mind blowing results that Jim and the RED team have achieved.


PS. I mean everything written above in the most respectful way, but also needed to get it off my chest as my doctor said it is not good to keep things in.



Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com
 
the global markets (ex-gold and commodities) are sucking wind right now. real estate everywhere in the US is suffering. around here, i am told by my realtor friends, wealthy europeans are scooping up relatively cheap land with euros.

lots of folks in these parts are losing their homes, not just their cameras. lots of dreams seem to be circling the drain lately...

but when folks can't purchase their cameras, RED suffers. ergo, we all stand to suffer potential price increases. when the dollar continues its downward spiral, RED suffers a double whammy, customers who can't afford their cameras and a debased currency.

it may not be pretty, but i can understand why they are making a stand here, to pay the bill or move to the end of the line. i'm sure they have bills to pay just like the rest of us...

krugerrands, anyone?
 
Ketch, I know you as a great guy and your love and support of RED is undeniable. If I'm not mistaken I think you even offered tons of lighting equipment to RED users for free on their productions. Kudos.

Real estate is horrible right now. It's not a seller's market by any means. But the RED is not a $80K machine either. $18K for a 4K Cinema cam is not that much if you are serious, and by the look of your current inventory, you must be. Perhaps you can sell a few items instead of the house? Get the body for now and at least you'll have that until more money arrives. I'm sure those you've helped will do the same for you.

Best of luck - vince
 
Just go back from a long ride on my Trike, fill a little less stress out, (at list for now).


The point is more then one and as Stubbed in the back, (strong word) is my way of expressing my fillings from when I read the e-mail this morning, as I see my sentimental attachment to RED vanish together with my low res.#


Again no matter what ( if I don't resolve economics in time) I'll still always support RED and will purchase their great produtcs.


I have more then one huge project in the works and few of them are just mind blogging ( with multimillion dollar budgets and impressive list of cast), just that they need more time to conclude.


I can't apologies for having written the above post, as those are my fillings, but nonetheless leaving the arguable discussion of "coming out of beta" I do understand ( as a business man my self)
what must be done by RED to get things moving forward faster and with a much better knowledge of those that are holding truth to their reservations.



Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com
 
vincelucero said:
Ketch, I know you as a great guy and your love and support of RED is undeniable. If I'm not mistaken I think you even offered tons of lighting equipment to RED users for free on their productions. Kudos.

Real estate is horrible right now. It's not a seller's market by any means. But the RED is not a $80K machine either. $18K for a 4K Cinema cam is not that much if you are serious, and by the look of your current inventory, you must be. Perhaps you can sell a few items instead of the house? Get the body for now and at least you'll have that until more money arrives. I'm sure those you've helped will do the same for you.

Best of luck - vince
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Vince, thanks for your kind words, and you are right, even if I could not come up with the full amount to get the entire camera systems, I could just get the body and even offered for rent, and with the money of the rentals buy gear as I go depending on the renters needs.

For the above reason also stated by you I have already put 2 of my HMI 1200 PARS out for SALE at a great discounted price, even so this units have never been used, I posted at DVXUSER and here at RED I have linked in the post as in link below.



http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7979



Doing everything I can, as this is only a temporary matter and things with me change very rapidly (well not always), but this camera has been a new found inspiration for me and pushed me forward in moments that I had very little energy to go forward my self,
just a hump in this forum, a look forward attitude to he things I would soon be able to tell with this cameras, and bam! Back in track with my writing and positive attitude about what little is left of my life.


Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com
 
"I have sent sales@red an email too, about transferring the deposit i paid for 18-85mm to the 18-50mm lens. Awaiting the reply so that I can make the final payment to Red."

when i received my order summary notice - Red had applied ALL deposit on all items ( 18-85, primes, 2nd Red etc) that i'v emade over past 1 1/2 years toward Red 103 which uses up that $7500 CC max. very easy ...

look over your summary very careful it should state total deposit received to date ( which should include all items you've placed deposits - they listed all items i had placed on order too ) ...
 
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