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Coming out of Beta...

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This thread is becoming a bit silly caught up in semantics. Call it beta call it whatever...This camera is amazing as are the folks behind it. It makes brilliant images right now; it improves all the time and probably will continue to do so. I want my evf and multiple outputs as much as the next guy and gal but I would rather have my camera without those things than no camera at all. When those things arrive, and they will arrive, they will be gravy !
Aloha
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Poi Boy said:
This thread is becoming a bit silly caught up in semantics. Call it beta call it whatever...This camera is amazing as are the folks behind it. It makes brilliant images right now; it improves all the time and probably will continue to do so. I want my evf and multiple outputs as much as the next guy and gal but I would rather have my camera without those things than no camera at all. When those things arrive, and they will arrive, they will be gravy !
Aloha
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In my line of work a viewfinder and the ability to send out a video signal to a director and video village at the same time are basic features and nothing close to gravy!
 
Finner said:
In my line of work a viewfinder and the ability to send out a video signal to a director and video village are basic features and nothing close to gravy!
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Ditto. I've been severely handicapped from day 1 about not being able to have LCD + monitor. I know some have double ganged HDSDI monitors, but I can't afford that.
 
Then shoot film and come back in a couple of months. I'm sure your clients won't mind.
Aloha
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Ya I guess I will just have to keep working with proffesional gear until it is ready.
 
Finner said:
Ya I guess I will just have to keep working with proffesional gear until it is ready.
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exactly, your words, not mine. If you want the red benefits now put up with the temporary short comings, explain them to you clients and make a decision.
I saw the Hoff at our mall recently.. he is abig guy !
Aloha
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Ok.. showing up a little late to the party but i need to clear a few things up.

First of all for multiple outputs... Multiple Outputs is enabled, just not ALL outputs. You can run the EVF, HDMI and SDI all at the same time and get video to everywhere you need it to go. now. LCD+ everything is coming.. but you can always use a 3rd party HD-SDI monitor onboard plus EVF+ HD-SDI etc if you need to until then.

EVF.. the EVF is not in beta anymore.. its done and its shipping, albeit in small numbers now. That will change. And the EVF is an accessory, for all of you that deem it a requirement, there are just as many that don't.

For you guys that still have a problem with the "features" not being complete... wait till build 14 and 15 before you make a judgement.

Trust me, it is worth the wait.
 
You have to remember though Jarred, hardly anyone owns an EVF as of yet and some won't be purchasing one even when they are readily available. On the other hand, everyone who owns a RED owns an LCD.

Running with a large onboard monitor such as the Panasonic or even a lighter Marshall or Astro is still extra weight and makes the rig a bit more time consuming to move and hook up, plus it adds an extra cost.

Enabling LCD+all outputs should be a top priority.

Hopefully build 14 fixes that. I'm sure it will be fixed, but I'm just surprised that this feature hasn't been enabled much earlier if not right out the gate.
 
We have a history of supporting our customers. We are replacing 100 cameras at N/C which supports that point. All we are saying is that we are coming out of Beta and if you have a reservation, it is time to make a decision if you want your camera. Pretty simple. If you decide to take your camera and are unhappy, what do you think your options are? We'll take it back. But you need to step up now. Take your camera or lose your place.

If you really believe we won't make you happy, then by all means... get your money back. But if you are in for the ride, take delivery.

If you are uncertain, ask the 1st 100 if the are happy they took the leap.

Jim
 
Alexander Nikishin said:
You have to remember though Jarred, hardly anyone owns an EVF as of yet and some won't be purchasing one even when they are readily available. On the other hand, everyone who owns a RED owns an LCD.

Running with a large onboard monitor such as the Panasonic or even a lighter Marshall or Astro is still extra weight and makes the rig a bit more time consuming to move and hook up, plus it adds an extra cost.

Enabling LCD+all outputs should be a top priority.

Hopefully build 14 fixes that. I'm sure it will be fixed, but I'm just surprised that this feature hasn't been enabled much earlier if not right out the gate.
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I beg to differ. I've always preffered to work with an EVF rather than an LCD. I've only ordered the EVF and not the LCD. I'm purchasing a third party LCD as an option but that's what it is for me, an option, while the EVF is for me a requirement. Only cheapo handycams don't have an EVF, but many pro cameras (all film cameras) only have an EVF. It's a question of preference of course, but I'm sure I'm not the only one in this case.

Cheers,
Damien
 
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If you have a serial number up for delivery, it is time for you to decide if you are in or out. We will have no problem with your decision either way.
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AND NOW

Jannard said:
if you have a reservation, it is time to make a decision if you want your camera. Pretty simple. If you decide to take your camera and are unhappy, what do you think your options are? We'll take it back. But you need to step up now. Take your camera or lose your place.

If you really believe we won't make you happy, then by all means... get your money back.
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Jim thanks for all your efforts developing this amazing camera. but
i wonder who tells you that we are unhappy with this camera. ?:angry2:
as i understand from your latest posts that there is a lot of people unsatisfied
with the camera .:wacko: it is thier decision.
so dosn't that mean not all of us unhappy with it. for me i didn't even see it or test it
all i know about it is from forum and disscusions and i will never let it go.
only time will proove that is the ONE ..RED ONE
 
Alexander Nikishin said:
On the other hand, everyone who owns a RED owns an LCD.
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not true..

Enabling LCD+all outputs should be a top priority.
but I'm just surprised that this feature hasn't been enabled much earlier if not right out the gate.
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easy to say.. but not so easy to do. The LCD has a completely different resolution than the rest of the chain.. so you need to send it a completely different feed.
 
Earthling... your order will be shipped with an EVF. Do you have a reservation? I'll make sure your EVF ships with your order. I remember Claudio saying it is the best EVF in the industry.

Jim
 
Jarred Land said:
... The LCD has a completely different resolution than the rest of the chain.. so you need to send it a completely different feed.
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Would it be worth considering a 2nd LCD that had the same resolution.. This could be a higher end unit that sells with the 1st one. Maybe a little larger as well.

I'd be happy to pay a little more for a higher resolution LCD anyway. The extra functionality would just be a bonus.

regards

Michael Lindsay
 
As I seem to recall Jim did say that it was okay to wait until EVERYTHING was complete before having to pay. Obviously the continual development process means that the definition of "complete" is going to be open to interpretation but it would seem to be reasonable to expect it to include include basic pre-announced specs like all multiple outs working. So hopefully 15 will sort that.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=97201&postcount=41

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