CineForm Officially Supports Red One

[David Newman]

Minor update to the R2CF tool. Here is the new R2CF distribution: download http://www.miscdata.com/red/R2CFv171.zip. Unzip the contents into: C:\Program Files\CineForm\Tools. To use this you must have NEO 4K or Prospect 4K installed on your Windows OS (trial version also works.)

The mapping of R3D SDK whitebalance data to CineForm Active Metadata engine has been tricky, now we have recalibrated the kelvin/tint "curves" of SDK to produce a precision match when translated to Active Metadata. In simple terms, white balance is accurately reproduced, without baking anything in. Note: this does not make you camera's white balance setting any more correct, we just produce the same output are the SDK, within the limitations of a cooked whitebalance. Within Prospect 4K, the Pick white control will get you the best whitebalance in post.

 

[David Wilson]

Many thanks. Getting to be like old-hat working with the scripts and LUTs. It's all working beautifully.

 

[Paolo Tinari]

Trying to get an anamorphic test on monday. Any hint on how Cineform would perform with anamorphic . r3d?

And, as usual, a edl in & out remainder for those out there involved in coding...

 

[David Newman]

We have a pixel aspect ratio control already, but it is untested with anamorphic Red sources. Please send me a short anamorphic R3D when you can and we will determine the settings.

 

[Paolo Tinari]

Anamorphic shooting postponed because of an asshole.

 

[David Newman]

Minor update to the R2CF tool. Here is the new R2CF distribution: download http://www.miscdata.com/red/R2CFv173.zip. Unzip the contents into: C:\Program Files\CineForm\Tools. To use this you must have NEO 4K or Prospect 4K installed on your Windows OS (trial version also works.)

This fixes a scaling error when making 4:4:4 2K/1080p masters form 4K. It was subtle, but we are perfectionists. It was due to a floating point precision error -- when 32-bits are not enough. Also fix a low memory issue when making 4:4:4 3K or 4K masters (RAW masters were already fine.)

 

[David Newman]

New public betas in time for the holiday. Lots of little bugs fixes.

Prospect 4K - http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/Prospect4Kv346b187-081126.zip
NEO 4K - http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/NEO4kv346b187-081126.zip

 

[Christopher Grant Harvey]

David, does build 187 of P4K include R2CF 173?

 

[David Newman]

Yes, all the latest stuff is in the build.

 

[Sean]

Does Neo4K transcode files with Audio on PC yet? (I do return here to ask this question in various threads because I keep hoping--and I fully realize 3rd party developers may be limited by the SDK.)

 

[David Newman]

It will as soon as Red gives us premission, it is a limition of the R3D SDK.

 

[Luis Otero]

Mac Codec & ReMaster

Mac Codec & ReMaster

David,

Did the Mac Codec and/or ReMaster et affected because this?

Please advise,

 

[David Newman]

Those products support more than just Red sources, they don't have audio disabled unless the source is R3D, as required by the R3D SDK licensing. It is out of our hands and is just as frustrating for us. We all have to wait for the new SDK.

 

[Mike Harrington]

once the adobe plug is ready I'm guessing...
your audio debayer isn't up to par...

 

[David Newman]

I don't understand the meaning in your second line. What is audio debayer?

I expect you're right that the audio support in the SDK will be delayed until their all their own products have support first. Yet their own products will not support CS3, Vegas, Combustion, etc, when ours do now, so don't limit third parties, enable them, it is for better customer support.

 

[Mike Harrington]

I don't understand the meaning in your second line. What is audio debayer?

it was an attempt at sarcasm....:innocent:

refering to similar enforced delays....very dry humour....
I'm sure once the adobe plug is sorted out you'll have raw access as well.

it's nice to have support for your own products ready before others do,
I totally understand that....but as a customer.... I don't care....I would have liked to have the choice...I have no brand loyalty...whatever works the best...I use.

 

[David Newman]

Forgot to post here.

Forgot to post here.

Here are the new beta download links

Prospect 4K (PC) http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/P4Kb187.zip
NEO 4K (PC) http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/N4Kb187.zip

Updates include:
Enhanced: the whitebalance accuracy converting Red source to use Active Metadata.
Fixed: a small handle leak in the decoder.
Fixed: A memory issue encoding 4:4:4 4K with R2CF.
Fixed: A subtle scaling artifact in large down scales from 4K or above.

 

[Christopher Grant Harvey]

Here are the new beta download links

Fixed: A subtle scaling artifact in large down scales from 4K or above.

Hi David,

Thanks for the updates... with regards to this update. What artifacts are we talking here...?

 

[Joyfool]

Hi David,

Does the R2C convert spanned R3Ds to spanned Cineform files? Or does it create 1 output file? If so is there a way to enable spanning in order to accommodate fat32 media?


thx

 

[David Newman]

Hi David,

Thanks for the updates... with regards to this update. What artifacts are we talking here...?

In only impact the 1920x1080 444 down scale form 4K, and only in minor away. Some of the Lanzcos 3 lobe cooefficients where miscalculated for the righthand side of the image. If you used express, or RAW or 1920x1080 422 conversion script the condition didn't happen.