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Cheap 33 ft. crane for the RED Epic

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This seems like an awesome system. I am interested in how the Proaim 22ft jib would stack up against this one? Besides the fact that it is significantly shorter, it can hold a little more weight and is decently priced. http://www.proaimshop.com/pas/PROAI...l-Tripod-Stand-LW-150-and-D-33-Pro-Dolly.html

Also, is there a reason that the 33ft CAME that holds 10 Kg is $1600 more - other than the fact that it has a higher weight capacity?
 
Brennan Robideaux said:
This seems like an awesome system. I am interested in how the Proaim 22ft jib would stack up against this one? Besides the fact that it is significantly shorter, it can hold a little more weight and is decently priced. http://www.proaimshop.com/pas/PROAI...l-Tripod-Stand-LW-150-and-D-33-Pro-Dolly.html

Also, is there a reason that the 33ft CAME that holds 10 Kg is $1600 more - other than the fact that it has a higher weight capacity?
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I honestly don't know. Maybe the entire crane is a little different?
 
dude for 2 grand where can I get that!!!!! Thanks so much for the post man please give me the website that is what I need so bad and the price is just Epic!!!
 
Luke Neumann said:
I honestly don't know. Maybe the entire crane is a little different?
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Hmm... I just contacted them to see, so hopefully I'll know soon. I just don't want to risk my R1 on the 5 Kilo jib, but the price of the other is almost doubled. Anyways, awesome review - the cinematography was great! Keep it up, I want to see more.
 
Brennan Robideaux said:
Hmm... I just contacted them to see, so hopefully I'll know soon. I just don't want to risk my R1 on the 5 Kilo jib, but the price of the other is almost doubled. Anyways, awesome review - the cinematography was great! Keep it up, I want to see more.
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Yeah, the R1 could be cutting it too close!
 
Pax said:
Luke- what did you think about the pan/tilt head and it's controls?
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Still getting the hang of it. I mean, if anything it's nice to be able to frame your shot once you go up. If you practice the move enough you can pull of those fast sweeping moves but the person manning the controls just needs a few times with it. Like anything I suppose. Wish it had the ability to "roll" but again, it's $2,000!
 
Luke, when do you think you will be releasing some more in depth videos featuring the crane?
 
Look, I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but as a long time user of Jimmyjib's triangle (which in this length costs around $14,500) I would really be concerned with what looks to me like a pretty light-weight tripod structure for all that weight and torque. These things can be pretty dangerous if not carefully sited and used. There are a whole range of safety issues with these things that really require care and thought. To extend this long and counter weight the arm means you are dealing with significant and dangerous forces. To put the crew at risk with a rig this cheap made in China seems like a questionable idea. If you compare the size of the arm triangle and the gauge of aluminum, particularly on the tripod legs, between the Chinese jib and the American jib, I think you will find the difference sobering. There is a reason that this Chinese jib is cheap. I am not talking about "buy American" orthodoxy or anything like that. I'm talking about crew safety. If you have that many pounds of weight and that long an extended arm and the tripod collapses, imagine what will happen to the operator, any actors under it, the AC and anybody else with the back luck of standing near it. If it collapses near power lines of any kind, its worse. I would suggest that anybody considering one of these things go and talk to an experienced grip about it and get his opinion.
 
Rob Gardner said:
Look, I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but as a long time user of Jimmyjib's triangle (which in this length costs around $14,500) I would really be concerned with what looks to me like a pretty light-weight tripod structure for all that weight and torque. These things can be pretty dangerous if not carefully sited and used. There are a whole range of safety issues with these things that really require care and thought. To extend this long and counter weight the arm means you are dealing with significant and dangerous forces. To put the crew at risk with a rig this cheap made in China seems like a questionable idea. If you compare the size of the arm triangle and the gauge of aluminum, particularly on the tripod legs, between the Chinese jib and the American jib, I think you will find the difference sobering. There is a reason that this Chinese jib is cheap. I am not talking about "buy American" orthodoxy or anything like that. I'm talking about crew safety. If you have that many pounds of weight and that long an extended arm and the tripod collapses, imagine what will happen to the operator, any actors under it, the AC and anybody else with the back luck of standing near it. If it collapses near power lines of any kind, its worse. I would suggest that anybody considering one of these things go and talk to an experienced grip about it and get his opinion.
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I respect that. It should be known (and I should probably state that in the review) that I'm using this at my own personal discretion and am simply sharing my findings. I will talk more about how best to set it up in a different video and think you are completely safe as long as you set the crane up perfectly. Not the easiest thing to do since the instructions are in Chinese...

That being said I think the Jimmy Jib is easily $5,000 overpriced AND the pan/tilt head is probably way more advanced. You could easily knock $7,500 off the Jimmyjib price (again, throwing profit out the window) and then THAT would be your difference in quality. Basically, I don't think the drastic difference in list price has only to do with build quality... I doubt you're paying for more than $1,000 worth of materials for the base and jib sections in either of these cranes.

So why I would agree with you that the Jimmyjib is probably a better all around crane (hell, it should be at that price), I wouldn't agree that this one is dangerous because it's cheaper. You just need to make sure to set it up properly and use it with caution...it's no more dangerous than any RC drone though. Once you set it up and start moving it around I think you start operating with caution by default....human nature when you're swinging 500lbs of metal around.
 
I just need to say, what an awesome review. You seem to get some really nice shots with this cheap beast haha.
I hope it will hold. Would hate to see any camera hit the ground.
The fact that you get a remote head is actually really crazy. If I'd had the money I'd really go for it.
Any problems getting it through customs?
 
Jens Rosengren said:
I just need to say, what an awesome review. You seem to get some really nice shots with this cheap beast haha.
I hope it will hold. Would hate to see any camera hit the ground.
The fact that you get a remote head is actually really crazy. If I'd had the money I'd really go for it.
Any problems getting it through customs?
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None at all! Helps to have everything insured though. I will suggest that.
 
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