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Captain Marvel on Dolby Cinema

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Andriy Trofymenko

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If this is the wrong place to post feel free to correct me.

So I went to see Captain Marvel yesterday on a Dolby Cinema Projection. The Audio was incredible as always.
The Red Monstro VV, the Panavision DXL, which uses the same sensor, were both used to shoot this film. Not to mention the Alexa 65. So it was a large format bonanza. I had some expectations going in.

I have not been to the cinema in months and have had a large amount of time looking at an extra bright Vizio quantum p UHD television. This is Vizios flagship TV from last year that supports Dolby vision. This TV is also what I use to review the Red footage I shoot.
Dont judge I like to look at everything on a larger monitor and I can't afford a color calibrated professional solution yet. Anyways to make up for it's less than stellar blacks the TV gets pretty bright to get that great HDR contrast. Now back to Captain Marvel...the film felt DIM!
Like REALLY DARK. Seemed to lack contrast in many scenes but that's something Marvel films are like sometimes, they look washed out. What I want to know is if this is something I am experiencing because of looking at a bright screen for so long or if anyone else got the same
thing i did? It's not like this is supposed to be a dark film. It just felt like someone made the projection dimmer. I know that Cinema screens dont get as bright but the contrast is made up in the blacks. I gotta say to me the film looked SDR...Can someone explain the technical stuff here? Has anyone else felt the same thing? the cameras used are capable of so much more and paying 18 bucks for the premium experience felt underwhelming here. I don't know. Let me know what you guys think. Please keep the conversation relative to the films look. I know the movie in other aspects wasn't the best.
 
The higher the peak brightness, the more likely it is that stray light will pollute the blacks. Tremendous respect for what Dolby is doing, but current projection/screen technology is DR limited by physics. To get legit HDR in a theatrical setting might require other solutions...

Cheers - #19
 
Andriy Trofymenko said:
So I went to see Captain Marvel yesterday on a Dolby Cinema Projection. The Audio was incredible as always.
The Red Monstro VV, the Panavision DXL, which uses the same sensor, were both used to shoot this film. Not to mention the Alexa 65. .
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The vast majority of the picture was shot with the A65. The Monstro was not used by the main unit, it was primarily plates and some 2nd unit. The DXL was used regularly but not as the "A" camera.
 
In my experience the new Dolby Theaters found in some of the AMC chains are by far the best theatrical projection available. Far surpassing any sort of standard 2K or 4K projector and definitely surpassing any film projection format in terms of brightness and contrast. What theater did you see CM in?
 
Adrian Jebef said:
In my experience the new Dolby Theaters found in some of the AMC chains are by far the best theatrical projection available. Far surpassing any sort of standard 2K or 4K projector and definitely surpassing any film projection format in terms of brightness and contrast. What theater did you see CM in?
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It was an AMC 24 at the Neshaminy mall in PA. Perhaps it was graded that way.
 
M Most said:
The vast majority of the picture was shot with the A65. The Monstro was not used by the main unit, it was primarily plates and some 2nd unit. The DXL was used regularly but not as the "A" camera.
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Thanks for that info.
 
I am constantly disappointed by brightness in theatres. Including the AMC Dolby Vision theatres. The only times I feel it’s right is when I watch on the IMAX laser projector.
 
Andrew Dease said:
Saw Alita in Dolby, beautiful colorful bright perfect. Saw Captain Mar vell in the same theatre. Dark way too dark to the point of unregistered, ugliest film I have seen in a theater visually speaking, ever. Incredibly ugly and dark picture.
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THANK YOU. so it's not just me. I can't believe they screened this and approved it. It was pretty bad for sure.
 
Perfect in Dolby at both the AMC Burbank 16 and Eastridge 15. IMAX laser projection was also excellent at the AMC Metreon.

Dolby Cinema uses 2 projectors. If it was dim, it’s likely a projection issue. I have received refunds upon contacting AMC’s complaint hotline for subpar screenings, so that’s a route you can take. I echo what Adrian has to say. Dolby Cinema here in California is very impressive.
 
What is happening here?



LOS ANGELES (AP) — "Captain Marvel" has continued to dominate the global box office in its second weekend in theaters, leaving newcomers in the dust.

Walt Disney Studios estimated Sunday that the intergalactic superhero fell only 55 percent from its record-breaking opening. This weekend, "Captain Marvel" earned an additional $69.3 million from North American theaters and $119.7 million internationally, bringing its global grosses to $760 million.

With Brie Larson in the title role, "Captain Marvel" has already surpassed the lifetime grosses of a slew of superhero films including "Justice League," ''Captain America: The Winter Soldier" and "The Amazing Spider-Man."

In a very distant second, Paramount's animated family film "Wonder Park" struggled with $16 million against a reported $100 million budget. Paul Dergarabedian, a senior media analyst for Comscore, said that it's hard to compete with "Captain Marvel," which is playing to all ages and audiences. But the PG-rated pic about a girl who dreams up an amusement park did not score well with critics either — it's currently sitting at a 30 percent on Rotten Tomatoes.

But it wasn't all bad news for the films in "Captain Marvel's" shadow. The Cole Sprouse and Haley Lu Richardson film "Five Feet Apart" opened in third place with $13.2 million in ticket sales, which is nearly double its production budget. The film from Lionsgate and CBS Films is centered on two teens with cystic fibrosis.

Audiences were overwhelmingly female (82 percent) and young (65 percent under age 25 and 45 percent under 18). That the stars involved, like Sprouse who is in the popular TV show "Riverdale," have a strong fan base and social following motivated young women to turn out to the theaters.
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'Captain Marvel' soars even higher with stellar 2nd weekend
 
Alexander Thomson said:
Perfect in Dolby at both the AMC Burbank 16 and Eastridge 15. IMAX laser projection was also excellent at the AMC Metreon.

Dolby Cinema uses 2 projectors. If it was dim, it’s likely a projection issue. I have received refunds upon contacting AMC’s complaint hotline for subpar screenings, so that’s a route you can take. I echo what Adrian has to say. Dolby Cinema here in California is very impressive.
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Thanks but I think it's a little late for me to be asking for a refund. I'm glad to hear that this was a theater issue actually. Maybe I'll see it again someday the way it was meant to be seen.

Anyway thanks for the info.
 
I would bet in the cases of dim projection, they are not removing the 3D lens. Very common.
 
by not removing the 3d lens, you are talking about a 50-85% reduction in brightness. It has been a problem at AMC and Regal theaters here in Boston. My friend, a former union projectionist when there was such a thing, says he has had to complain many times about it and gathers that they are sometimes lazy or uninterested in removing the 3D lens for 2D movies.
 
Steve Sherrick said:
I would bet in the cases of dim projection, they are not removing the 3D lens. Very common.
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This is bang on the money. I’ve had this happen as well, and what’s tough is it’s not obvious to the average moviegoer. Discerning patrons will know something’s wrong, but may fall into the trap of thinking, “it’s Dolby Cinema, it’s my eyes that are broken, not the theater”

I can’t stress enough: to anyone who thinks the projection is bad, raise a stink. You’ll get comp tickets. They want to get you back into the theatre, buy concessions, and forget about the bad experience.
 
The last thing the distributors and exhibitors need is another issue to deal with. That said, there needs to be some mechanism to penalize exhibitors who can't properly exhibit - it's in the frikkin' job description. If I were Dolby, I'd be apoplectic. Not sure how much they've spent to build a reputation for quality, but threads like this one are the last thing they want to see.

Cheers - #19
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
The last thing the distributors and exhibitors need is another issue to deal with. That said, there needs to be some mechanism to penalize exhibitors who can't properly exhibit - it's in the frikkin' job description. If I were Dolby, I'd be apoplectic. Not sure how much they've spent to build a reputation for quality, but threads like this one are the last thing they want to see.
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The movie has made over $800 million worldwide. I don't think there's a real problem here.
 
Fair enough Mike, the few people who have seen subpar presentations are a rounding error. That said, I still think that Dolby has skin in the game to protect their brand value - regardless of the popularity of a particular movie.

Cheers - #19
 
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