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Canon EOS R5 with 8K video! No crop!

Andy Roberts said:
I totally agree Michael. And for those with a Komodo too, with the RF mount (once it gets supported), I think it is the perfect video and stills combo. Though my R5 hasn't arrived yet, I think its 120FPS uncropped 4K will be a nice compliment to Komodo's lack of full frame over cranked.
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You bring up a point which I approached but didn't articulate which is that these two cameras may be a perfect package for a lot of people - for about $10K you get the best of both worlds - both use the same lenses and lens accessories (e.g. if you want to use PL or almost any other common mount lens), you get global shutter with Komodo - you get IBIS, flash, Canon autofocus with R5 - you get long form shooting at 6K with Komodo, prob greater dynamic range and RED color science - you get "burst" mode 8K with R5, etc etc.

This is why I don't feel bad talking about the R5, or maybe I'm even backhandedly promoting it to an extent, on the Reduser site - there's a really good fit there.
 
Michael Hastings said:
This is why I don't feel bad talking about the R5, or maybe I'm even backhandedly promoting it to an extent, on the Reduser site - there's a really good fit there.
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My only pain point is that all my glass is Nikon. So making the costly transition to RF, but RF glass is looking really nice in terms of imagery. Some think the RF 28-70mm f2 is one of the best lenses Canon has ever made. I realize it isn't cine glass, but for the style of shooting I do, I think it will be perfect.
 
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And yes, if it's an artificial heat/time limit (presumably to preserve higher end sales), that'd be pretty dirty. But like Ian Malcom said, 'life, uhhh, finds a way.'
 
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Michael Hastings said:
...............and no reason for the online "outcry".
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The outcry is from the generation that doesn't often get to see technology being held back. They're used to their devices using the full capabilities of the hardware. They've been shown a device that has the hardware capable of that level of performance for that price point, but its being (either artificially, or through engineering oversight) throttled to help the company try to protect their upper tier.

I know there is so much mis-information regarding the "issues". However unless there's a difference made through firmware updates it is still going to be an issue for a lot of current and potential customers.

I'm not going to take any one's word as full fact, but among the many sources provided by people with a passion, Andrew Reid at EOSHD has been putting a lot of effort into being factual. There is some crucial information missing from this article (https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-eos-r5-overheated-in-my-fridge-after-just-60-jpegs-4-c-ambient/), but it shows issues with stills mode as well. This one helps confirm that it is solely firmware limited, not heat as suggested https://www.eoshd.com/news/this-is-...-straight-until-empty-battery-video-evidence/.

It is coming to light that these "issues" are most likely artificially imposed through firmware, not where they reach hardware limitations.

I will agree a lot of the belly-aching isn't fully justified, as Canon has been relatively upfront about the fact time limited recording exists.

I could be altogether wrong and there might really be a heat issue as there isn't any thermal management directly attached to the ASIC.

Time will tell. Regardless, the people that end up with one of these in their hand will still find ways to create amazing art with it.
 
It seems to be a little of both firmware limiting and real heat issues. It looks like part of the record time limitation is set by a clock timing simply the camera power on time rather than temp measurement. I agree that that should be fixed so shutdown aligns with temperature or possibly actual record time since I do believe it is within the right of a manufacturer to limit certain functions even if it is simply to protect other products in their line as long as they are upfront about what the limits are and it meets the given specs. At that point, if you don't like it don't buy it.

For example, IIRC most BMWs have a computer controlled speed limit even though they are typically capable of much higher speeds.
 
You're right, most cars on the road (in North America) are factory speed restricted based on the speed rating of the OEM tires they ship with. Motorcycle have been speed limited for at least a decade to 300km/hr to try and cut down on amateurs trying to join the 200MPH club (which seems irrelevant after joining the 300MPH club any way)

There was likely a lot of internal debate over this topic. The delicate balancing act between price-point, feature set, and cost. I'm sure it needs the amount of processing power they've put in it.

I'm still going to be keeping an eye on it. It's promising to be an amazing stills camera upgrade. I would be in a rush to get one if it could reliably do the marketed times or if it was truly thermal throttled ; then accessories like the Peltier cooler Tilta announced would actually be of some benefit (even though the IHS on the silicon is pretty far from any high thermal conductivity pieces).

It's actually the cool off times that bother me more than the recording times. I have experimented a lot with cooling silicon, and it really shouldn't retain heat for as long as real world limiting has shown, unless some part of the heat dissipation was designed to thermally insulate instead of conduct.
 
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Anyone else kind of blown away by this footage hand held from a 3800.00 camera?







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Canon EOS R5: 8K RAW, Skintones, LOG&LUT, Autofocus, Stabilization


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Canon vs Sony for video: EOS R5 & R6 vs Sony a7S III (vlog camera review)


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Canon R5 Initial Discoveries


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Canon R5 & R6 Shoot Menu and Settings Explained


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