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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Can we get an Adobe workflow section Jared?

joelnet said:
Cool location. How are you going to handle the audio?
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I assume you mean audio in this location, not in general for the entire show (this particular location only represents about 5/8th of a page). I don't know how obvious it is from this still, but this is a really big tunnel. Its nearly 25' in height and several miles long. The reverberant dominance isn't as bad as you might guess, but it is way to high to make location sound usable, so the dialog in this scene will be all ADR.

The real challenge here isn't sound, its lighting. I have already done some testing and have an idea worked out, but I can tell you, it will be a real challenge.

OK, lets keep this thread going. Does anyone else have anything that they can add that is related even if in just a marginal way. I assume that everyone here is interested in an Adobe solution. I know that Graeme and Jim and other's at RED are aware of our interests, but its all about priorities and if we look to be too small of group then we will get pushed back in terms of effort (and this is certainly understandable given the massive task that they have and the size of the workforce).
 
kinobairn said:
Oh, In case some of you haven't seen. Adobe announced at IBC their P2 workflow. Supposedly it is the best out of the 3 A's. No rewrapping or transcoding. You just drop the files into Premiere and After Effects and you're good to go. It took them a long time, so hopefully they really did get it right. I really hope the Red support doesn't take nearly as long.
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This sounds like a great P2 solution. Not much help for me as I don't shoot P2 all that often (last time was in January) but glad that they finally got it right. Now lets hope that it doesn't take as long for a RED work flow in Premiere! Adobe is such a large entity that they tend to move like molasses.
 
kinobairn said:
Oh, In case some of you haven't seen. Adobe announced at IBC their P2 workflow. Supposedly it is the best out of the 3 A's. No rewrapping or transcoding. You just drop the files into Premiere and After Effects and you're good to go. It took them a long time, so hopefully they really did get it right. I really hope the Red support doesn't take nearly as long.
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Avid has been able to read P2 files since the format appeared, without rewrapping or transcoding, at least for basic editorial. You can cut directly from files that are still living on the card if you want. Real time playout does require transcoding to DNxHD, however.
 
I'm just quoting Adobe on their solution. I just know it took too long. But I'm glad it is here now. I don't shoot very much with P2 cameras either, but most of the effects shots that I work on are from p2 cameras so it will help to not have to walk the mac clients through how to export a pc compatible file :)
 
Info from John McGinley:

Short film (40 mins long) "Postcards From the Future" was shot digitally on the 4k Dalsa Origin, posted and edited with Adobe CS2 suite and is being projected digitally using the 4K Sony Digital projector, so there is absolutely no film grain at all. Those of you thinking about working in 4K may want to see what the end result can look like.

For more information:
http://www.postcardsfromthefuture.net/
 
Adobe 4k Support

Adobe 4k Support

ronx said:
I like Adobe. Can premiere import clips greater than 4000x3000 yet?
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Ronx,

Adobe Premiere supports up to 4096 x 4096 natively.

-Thor Wixom
 
Id definitely like to see an adobe section here as well. Will most of you guys be using APPro 2 or CS3? I like 2, but haven't tried CS3 yet, but am assuming i'll have to go to that for 4k files.

BTW, what is scratch? I understand it is for conforming, but can anyone elaborate on it? and also, does anyhow have a link to it for more information? thanks.
 
Eric Edwards said:
BTW, what is scratch? I understand it is for conforming, but can anyone elaborate on it? and also, does anyhow have a link to it for more information? thanks.
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http://www.assimilateinc.com/

I'm curious what codec those guys who shot the Dalsa used to edit in Premiere.

I'm definitely interested in an Adobe solution but I'll switch to FCP if that looks like a better way to go. The RED guys have said support for other apps will come via Quicktime wrapper. You should be able to save a Quicktime reference file from RedCine (takes seconds) start editing in Premiere.

I'm thinking I'll try editing the 1K extraction. They've been offline/onlining movies forever.
 
My company will be using CS3, Adobe seems to be doing even better than in the past to release updates for there new products. Also the speed filter quality in CS3 is far superior to CS2. There are quite a few shots where I just use Pr instead of going to Ae.
 
Premiere CS3 is the only editing solution of the three A's (Adobe, Apple, Avid) to support 4k natively, and it does it 10-bit bit depth.

It really would be great to get an Adobe workflow section.

Please Jarred. Let's make this happen.

-Thor
 
Thor Wixom said:
Premiere is the only editing solution of the three A's (Adobe, Apple, Avid) to support 4k natively. Plus, it's also the only cross-platform solution.

It really would be great to get an Adobe workflow section going.

Please Jarred. Let's make this happen.

-Thor
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Avid has been cross platform for about 10 years now.

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA
 
luki said:
Avid has been cross platform for about 10 years now.

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA
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You're right. Wasn't thinking. Edited.

-Thor
 
About to purchase the camera, and we cant get a simple answer,

where's the Adobe workflow?
 
I'll give you an Adobe workflow.

1. Capture footage to CF
2. Import footage into RedCine when available.
3. Convert footage to Cineform Prospect 2k.
4. Import footage into Premiere CS3.
5. Edit to your hearts content.
6. Export EDL to Scratch for 4k finish. (Or wait for Prospect 4k and finish in After Effects)

Chris
 
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