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Buy Fs7 or Scarlett ?

Ramiro Garza

Ramiro Garza

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Hellow guys, i'm quite new in this forum, i dont own a RED camera, but i'd love to.

I usually film concerts and make "aftermovies"and i have quite time renting the FS7 down here on Mexico.

I want to buy a camera, but i dont know what would be the best option for my necessities. I love RED products, and i'd like to own a camera.. but i dont know if buying FS7 (SlowMo, 4k internal, 12bits external recorder) Or the Scarlet, i like more the scarlett colours, since i think with the fs7 gives you a cheap look. Which one you think it would be the best option? Or maybe saving and buy a Epic????

Thanks
 
not the right forum to ask a subjective question like this..

my advice.. do a test.. wait till ursa mini comes out.. get your hands on scarlet, epic, ursa mini, fs7, so on and check it out for your self.. see what workflow works for your needs..


in other news.. I just played with an old dinosaur the other day..the RED ONE MX.. and honestly.. I must say. while big, it is a pretty stable beast, and the image were top notch...and I thought for sure I would have forgotten the menu structure, but NOPE. and it wasnt that difficult. not as easy as touch screen , but not really much worst than alexa or amira..
 
Hey Ramiro!

So I've used a bunch of cameras. Here's my suggestion.

If you can deal with a 1600ISO ceiling, lower battery life and a bigger media expense, go with the RED. The picture is better than the FS7 but it takes more time to set-up, rig, and the battery and media won't last as long. The FS7 is an overall fantastic camera. RED's require more time and money for longer shoots.
 
You can rent a red scarlet on one of your jobs and see if t goes well? I'm in a similar situation as you, want to buy and shoot red but a fs7 or similar camera is easier to work with..
 
I don't understand why a Fs7 is "easier" than a red cam, especially what the raven will be. i mean i think the Fs7 looks like a great camera too but i wouldn't base my decision on a $5000 + purchase on whats "easier", the question is whats better for you and the type of work you do. the nice thing about RED is it seems to make more sense as a "Film" camera, and also can be used for lots of other things. I would imagine the Fs7 would be more popular with broadcast and commercial work, but both cameras can do everything hehe so if you have been wanting to be a red cam owner, this is certainly your chance.
 
Well for me Ramiro it's a no Brainer. I own reds cameras (both the little and the small) and a fs7 . If you happen to shoot concert and Wana own a camera the best think is to buy a fs7 . So much versatility compare to red. (High frame rate with no crop, high Iso, easy work flow, easy set up, light weight, cheaper camera, "cheap" media, very nice handle)
Two things fs7 don't have: RAW and image quality as good the scarlet.

But honestly, you shoot concert so the high iso is a advantage that by itself should force you to forget red.
 
"But honestly, you shoot concert so the high iso is a advantage that by itself should force you to forget red."

this is actually true, this iso part, but if you want to branch out to different projects.. that raven is looking pretty sweet man @@
 
Matthew Quinn said:
I don't understand why a Fs7 is "easier" than a red cam, especially what the raven will be. i mean i think the Fs7 looks like a great camera too but i wouldn't base my decision on a $5000 + purchase on whats "easier", the question is whats better for you and the type of work you do. the nice thing about RED is it seems to make more sense as a "Film" camera, and also can be used for lots of other things. I would imagine the Fs7 would be more popular with broadcast and commercial work, but both cameras can do everything hehe so if you have been wanting to be a red cam owner, this is certainly your chance.
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I said easier for Ramiro's type of work. I hate the videoish looks of cameras like fs7 but its a real pain to use a camera like Red for these type of stuff, but sometimes it worth the pain:)
 
yah i hear ya, but if i can encourage someone to get in on the red when its clear they could broaden their abilities I feel like its the right thing to do. and yes i agree the Scarket MX is a bit more difficult to work with. The advancement in technology with the raven and other 3rd party companies is making it much more streamline and lightweight. The Raven is definitely more "pick up and go shoot" compared to the Epic which takes a lot of work to get all the wires connected and etc.

and after all any camera rig can get as complicated as you want to take it. I worked with a sony rig recently that was a beast. the nice thing about the RED brains is they can be stripped down to fit in tight spots, on gimbals, on drones, on car rigs, the list goes on
 
I own RED cameras and a FS7. The Sony rent out well for broadcast jobs, but i find a hard time renting out my REDS for that client base. When I shoot TVCs, extreme sport, etc the RED is the camera the clients want.
I bought a fs7 as I could recoup the investment very quickly, the REDs has taken a lot longer.
Mum hoping the REVEN can take the FS7s place in broadcasts. I'm betting on it ;-) I have to say if I were you I would get the FS7 first, try to make the money back quickly, and invest in a RAVEN a year or two from now if all goes well.
You really have to take your client base into consideration so only you can really know.
I think the FS7 is a very versatile camera and a great first camera to own.
 
Joachim Hoge said:
I own RED cameras and a FS7. The Sony rent out well for broadcast jobs, but i find a hard time renting out my REDS for that client base. When I shoot TVCs, extreme sport, etc the RED is the camera the clients want.
I bought a fs7 as I could recoup the investment very quickly, the REDs has taken a lot longer.
Mum hoping the REVEN can take the FS7s place in broadcasts. I'm betting on it ;-) I have to say if I were you I would get the FS7 first, try to make the money back quickly, and invest in a RAVEN a year or two from now if all goes well.
You really have to take your client base into consideration so only you can really know.
I think the FS7 is a very versatile camera and a great first camera to own.
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Very true, I still vote red tho. I've done 3 jobs for the nfl network with my dragon recently, I dunno if they have younger producers or something now, but they were not thrown off when I told them I shoot with a red at all.. They loved the double dragon set up
 
Thanks indeed for all the constructive comments, and the funny ones haha, i haven't seen the Reaven, but i'll take a look at it guys, thanks!
 
From the sounds of it, it is likely an FS7 will suit your work much better than any RED.

Have you ever shot with any RED? And specifically with the one you're considering buying?

As if not, then choosing that over one you regularly rent and know works well for you (the FS7) would be very silly to do! So see if you can rent/borrow a RED a few times first.

Another option for an owner op to consider is the new FS5, which is even cheaper than the FS7 (and uses the dirt cheap SD cards rather than XQD cards, further bringing down the total ownership cost of the FS5).
 
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