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"Burst" mode possible?

"Burst" mode possible?

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Timothy Carr

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Hey all, i was looking at some other types of cameras, and was wondering this: Why havent red released a firmware upgrade to do slow motion FPS (120fps or above for scarlet, like 900 for epic) at 2k (or 1080p) in a "burst" of say 10 seconds? I know nobody high up enough is going to be reading this, but i really hope this sort of thing can be released. I mean the hardware surly can handle it, right?

EDIT: sorry guys, i spelt the poll name wrong. damn iphones...
 
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If you are running the latest firmware you could create a custom action that set a particular frame rate for you, if that helps. It isn't a parameter that changes particularly quickly though. We are talking about a motion picture camera here without a stills mode. Everything is a burst, and you are not limited to 10 seconds. ;-)
 
Scott Crawley said:
If you ate running the latest firmware you could create a custom action that set a particular frame rate for you, if that helps. It isn't a parameter that changes particularly quickly though.
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I meant like "boost the max fps while in burst mode". For eg. The scarlet records a max of 60fps at 2k. Have a burst mode that for 10 secs, ups that 60 to 120.
 
Scarlet can't currently do 120 FPS @2k. You know that, right? Maybe there is a chance that it could handle that rate in a limited duration, but I'm inclined to think that it can not... At all. I suppose that is what you are wishing for?
 
Scott Crawley said:
It's funny, I think I do... Yet I'm sure I don't because it seems like a silly question, and I don't mistake your intent as silly.
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Well take the Sony FS700 for example. It can do 1080 at 60p. BUT in a burst mode it can do 1080 at 120p. So im saying, if a cheap(er) camera can do that (alot of others do), why cant the scarlet?
 
It's a function of resolution (or frame size), compression scheme or codec and processing power. My understanding is that 2k RAW is substantially more data than other codecs @1080, so the processing and throughput requirements are higher... Apparently too high for Scarlet components.
 
Timothy Carr said:
Well then how about 1080p? This is the thing, if its possible on a camera with lower processing power, surely its possible with a scarlet...
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Apparently 1k WS is the largest frame Scarlet can process @120 FPS. It is also somewhat apparent that 1080 is verboten @Red. :-)
 
Scott Crawley said:
Apparently 1k WS is the largest frame Scarlet can process @120 FPS. It is also somewhat apparent that 1080 is verboten @Red. :-)
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But your missing the burst mode thing here. 1k WS is the fastest at "no limit recording", but what about at burst mode. Im sure we can bump up the fps then. Your forgetting that 2k HD is 1080p
 
Timothy Carr said:
But your missing the burst mode thing here. 1k WS is the fastest at "no limit recording", but what about at burst mode. Im sure we can bump up the fps then. Your forgetting that 2k HD is 1080p
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2k HD is 1920 x 1080 but Red won't call it 1080... hence the verboten, but I take your point. You say you are certain that Scarlet is capable of handling a 2kHD frame @120 fps in a limited burst. Upon what facts do you base your certainty?
 
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Scott Crawley said:
2k HD is 1920 x 1080 but Red won't call it 1080... hence the verboten, but I take your point. You say you are certain that Scarlet is capable of handling a 2kHD frame @120 fps in a limited burst. Upon what facts do you base your certainty?
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Im not certain, but i dont think it wouldn't be that hard. Like i said, other cameras can do it, they have less processing power. To get around that limitation, they have a burst mode. If the scarlet is superior, why cant it do the "simpler" things?
 
Timothy Carr said:
Im not certain, but i dont think it wouldn't be that hard. Like i said, other cameras can do it, they have less processing power. To get around that limitation, they have a burst mode. If the scarlet is superior, why cant it do the "simpler" things?
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Timothy Carr said:
Well then how about 1080p? This is the thing, if its possible on a camera with lower processing power, surely its possible with a scarlet...
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You are missing the point that RAW 2kHD is not the same as 1080 in other codecs.
 
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