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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Build 16 + PC = NO (Or not yet)

digitalfx said:
Sorry, but it is really that simple...except the $2500 should be $3500, which is exactly what I spent on my MBPro + FCS. If it takes you years to master OSX, then you need to consider another career. Sorry to be so frank...

No need to toss anything...the MBPro will get along swimmingly with your PC's
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I was at the new apple store in Boston, just a couple of blocks from here on Sunday. Seems our mac minis won't let me run FCS. I need to be able to edit some really basic footage, 30 seconds at a time max. Maybe we will use it for more later. Came to the conclusion that I needed a MBPro ($2000) and FCS ($1300).

So, what configuration of the MBPro, disk/processor/memory, is good enough for basic usage? What else (i.e. card reader) should I add?

As we move into the territory of lens compensation, automated collimation, etc, it will become important for me to have a testbed that is comparable to what others are using in the field. Anybody care to comment?
 
birgerEngineer said:
I was at the new apple store in Boston, just a couple of blocks from here on Sunday. Seems our mac minis won't let me run FCS. I need to be able to edit some really basic footage, 30 seconds at a time max. Maybe we will use it for more later. Came to the conclusion that I needed a MBPro ($2000) and FCS ($1300).

So, what configuration of the MBPro, disk/processor/memory, is good enough for basic usage? What else (i.e. card reader) should I add?

As we move into the territory of lens compensation, automated collimation, etc, it will become important for me to have a testbed that is comparable to what others are using in the field. Anybody care to comment?
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Depends on budget- this config is $3300, and would be ideal:
MacBook Pro, 17-inch
Part Number: Z0F2
Accessory Kit
2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Backlit Keyboard (English) / User's Guide
4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
200GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
MacBook Pro 17-inch Hi-Resolution LED Widescreen Display
 
Eric, the MacBook Pro 15'' basic configuration with 2.4GHz $1,999 should do that job. Upgrading the RAM to 4GB is useful, you can buy additional RAM at reasonable prices from http://www.otherworldcomputing.com/.

edit: if your budget is higher get the configuration from digitalfx
 
Jarred Land said:
you know Jay.... if you read both our posts and think about them you can realize that both can be true...
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Di i understand this correctly?
Redcine and stable R16 will be already out end of the week?
That would excellent!
 
Don't Macs only account for something like 10% of computers?

To me, I find it insane to spend 5 grand on a computer and an ass-kickin' video card I can't even play games on. :)
 
Tom said:
Don't Macs only account for something like 10% of computers?
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Not in the multimedia world.

To me, it seems odd to spend $4K on a mattebox and not to expect to spend a dime on the basic post pipeline tools.

You can run your expensive windows apps on a mac, so it is not as if you are losing access to these tools. Of course, it doesn't flow the other way...

Just sayin' -- I hope the 3rd party tools improve rapidly for everybody.
 
Tom said:
Don't Macs only account for something like 10% of computers?

To me, I find it insane to spend 5 grand on a computer and an ass-kickin' video card I can't even play games on. :)
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Last I read, the North American market share was near 8%, the world wide market share was nearer 3%.

As for 'game playin' we all have to prioritize our expenditures! :blush:
 
digitalfx said:
Depends on budget- this config is $3300, and would be ideal:
MacBook Pro, 17-inch
Part Number: Z0F2
Accessory Kit
2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Backlit Keyboard (English) / User's Guide
4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
200GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
MacBook Pro 17-inch Hi-Resolution LED Widescreen Display
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You didn't mention which video card.

Since I'm moving all my systems to Vista64 I may need a MPPro for field capture and process.
 
Meryem Ersoz said:
To me, it seems odd to spend $4K on a mattebox and not to expect to spend a dime on the basic post pipeline tools.
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Exactly... I consider the MBPro an essential part of our Red Camera Package. We never go out w/o it.
 
Tom said:
Don't Macs only account for something like 10% of computers?

To me, I find it insane to spend 5 grand on a computer and an ass-kickin' video card I can't even play games on. :)
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Not in the top DI end world. OSX is pretty close to 1% there, not 10%.

All the biggest systems of all the mayor players are not on OSX.

avid: media composer osx, DS and DS nitris no OSX.
discreet: combustion osx, flame, smoke, inferno, lustre no OSX.
quantel: iQ/eQ/pablo etc.
Pure 4K systems, as DVS clipster or filmlight baselight are not available on OSX as well, and the list (sadly) continues.
Also the mid-sized DI systems dont run on OSX, but windows (as assimilate scratch), the expception is iridas speedgrade - but due to apple the OSX speedgrade has no SDI support.

That the best applications are not available on OSX (or back then, os 9) was one of the main reason we left Apple as main platform in ~1998/99 after long and happy years and only have them as offline/compability computers.
 
Aw, well, this career has paid me pretty well so far and continues to enrich my creative soul, even with a PC based production office! So strange to go from offering a perspective to being told by some in this community to make a career change. My films and produced screenplays should probably have more to do with that decision than the brand of my computer. But online forums do bring out the worst in us all. Like many here, I have been exposed to both, but ultimately we're all different with different creative and business needs. But it's sort of moot since Red is supporting both PC and Mac, just not on the same timeline, so...all I was doing was offering another perspective. I also live in an Avid world, which has been PC-centric. That may evolve, but there are still a lot of reasons for me to stay the course. And I am managing my Red workflow without owning a Mac, even when I have to lean on a friend or two once in a while.
 
khmuse said:
Last I read, the North American market share was near 8%, the world wide market share was nearer 3%.

As for 'game playin' we all have to prioritize our expenditures! :blush:
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Damn right!

Quake.. Then everything else.. like food.

Or did you have something else in mind?

:blink:
 
I'm partial to Team Fortress 2 and Warhammer 40k at the moment.. and then food.

That's what the Win XP SP3 machine in the corner is for! The Mac Pro/MB Pro/PowerMac G5 do all the actual work.

Best!

ATF
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Ok fine. That's good enough for me.. the only part I really cared about was JIM'S part being true, since that is this weekend!

:)

Jay
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I think you read it wrong, Jay. Re-read what Jarred said: RedCine (PC) will be out when Build 16 Stable is out. That doesn't say RedCine Mac has to wait though.

The way I read that, they're going to launch RedCine Mac in the next few days, and RedCine PC won't necessarily follow right away, and it may be delayed until Build 16 Stable is out.
 
You guys need to stop jumping to conclusions... I just said by the time BUILD 16 STABLE is released, there will be a PC REDCINE for support.. this was a direct response to us releasing only RA for mac at the time of the alpha release.


Both REDCINE for MAC and PC will be out very shortly... and most likely at the same time.
 
Hopefully one day there will be no need for PC vs MAC debate on this forum.....:blush:
 
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