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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Build 12...

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tonaci said:
My bank (wamu) said it would take an average of two business days for the transfer to complete. You might want to do it thursday to be safe, unless your bank does things faster or unless you don't mind waiting an extra day.

There still is a chance it may come friday but we'll see. I can hardly sleep hehe.
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Wait, you did you guys get final invoices and payment info?

I have not gotten a response to any of the emails I sent to sales@red.com :sad:
 
digitalfx said:
So far I dont see any noticeable improvement. The blocky compression in the shadows looks the same. But my testing has been limited so far.
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Well, I guess that's my answer there. Hmmm, I expected a jump in actual image quality, since it seems to me that the black shading calibration would reset the noise floor...
 
digitalfx said:
So far I dont see any noticeable improvement. The blocky compression in the shadows looks the same. But my testing has been limited so far.
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How are you processing your footage?

Jim
 
Damn! I just found out my loan won't fund until the 2nd of January, then it may take several days past that for the wire to go through to Red, then 2-3 days for shipping. Oh, well. What's a few more days when I've been waiting a year and a half? I just want it in time for Sundance.

-Thor
 
Jim,

Will this (almost shipping) next batch of cameras have build 12 already installed, and black levels set?

-Thor
 
Hey Thor,
Jim said that 12 would be installed on all cameras shipping in December
 
Tonaci, Rfo,

Thanks! I look forward to using the new features of this build!

-Thor
 
Jannard said:
How are you processing your footage?

Jim
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I am just looking at the footage directly in RedCine...no processing. I am justing looking at one frame.

I locked down the camera, shot a few seconds w/ build 11.
Then updated to Build 12, ran Black Calibration and shot a few seconds of same scene w/ Build 12.

Loaded the two clips into Red Cine and toggled back and forth.

A very crude test at best. The area I am looking at is the shadows. I can upload the two raw files to my FTP if you like.
 
I'd love to see the files... I have to assume that you are looking at the frames at "Full res. High"?

Jim
 
Basic processing guidance please

Basic processing guidance please

Nice job Greg, though I suppose its academic since build 11 will soon join MacOS9 in the dustbin of history.

Moving forward I am very interested in Brook's query about processing philosophy. As the tools evolve some of the methods I found effective in September and October may no longer be the best route.

I understand that different material and specific looks will dictate choices and that the subject is extremely complex. That said, would anyone on the Red Team care to proffer a "quick start" guide to using the RAW editors (RedAlert & RedCine) to best generate high DR, low noise and (when desired) color accurate "one lights"?

Yes Virginia, I know that RA & RC are not color grading apps per se but for those of us who can't afford a Scratch seat and would prefer to grade natively in RAW the RED apps are the most attractive option.
 
Blair... you can go a long way in REDCINE. I have been using it all week and I am finding ways to get great images out.

Jim
 
So....

I'm in the middle of a project (we went down for the holidays). When we go back up, what are the implications of using footage in Redcine that was shot on previous builds mixed with footage shot from the new build?

...Any problems?

:huh:
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
Nice job Greg, though I suppose its academic since build 11 will soon join MacOS9 in the dustbin of history.

Moving forward I am very interested in Brook's query about processing philosophy. As the tools evolve some of the methods I found effective in September and October may no longer be the best route.

I understand that different material and specific looks will dictate choices and that the subject is extremely complex. That said, would anyone on the Red Team care to proffer a "quick start" guide to using the RAW editors (RedAlert & RedCine) to best generate high DR, low noise and (when desired) color accurate "one lights"?

Yes Virginia, I know that RA & RC are not color grading apps per se but for those of us who can't afford a Scratch seat and would prefer to grade natively in RAW the RED apps are the most attractive option.
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Hey Blair -

I am sure you will eventually see some "quick start" stuff and "tools and tricks" on this forum and other websites.

My point of view is this:

The single biggest "boner" you have with the REDALERT and REDCINE is the fact that you can't output to a proper monitor. Yes, I know we can all calibrate out MacBook Pros and all our other 8-bit LCD's - and you can get in the "ballpark" but it's just not the same - especially with shots right on the "edge" that need the extra love to get across the finish line.

My advice for folks out there without Scratch or another DI system is to think of REDCINE as your "telecine" - NOT your color grading application. Imagine you shoot 35mm and then go into a supervised telecine transfer session - you are now doing a basic, "best light" - primary color correct - by roll or by scene or shot by shot.

Then, on whatever system you use that gets you to a proper monitor, do your final color grade - even if that is Final Cut Pro with Colorista and a Kona 3 - that will serve you better than just trying to cross the finish line with REDCINE only.

Now, I am not exactly sure WHY Red doesn't route the GPU processed image out a KONA 3 - just like Final Touch(did)/Color does - YES I understand that will slow down FPS - but MUCH more useful to see image on a monitor than see it in real-time - maybe it's a patent thing from the Final Touch acquisition (if so, Apple would own that now).

Yeah, REDCINE out the Kona 3 - even if it is a seperate version like "REDCINE PRO" and costs money - would be killer.
 
Realistic option maybe the ability to add the "DUAL HEAD/SDI " optional module from Scratch into RC?

Isn't a Scratch system in exactly the same situation as RC unless this module is added?

Like you said if this was an optional $$ addon for RC that only works with rEd would be another sales avenue. May effect the sales of Scratch red post systems though.


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