Bridge plate woes

[Rick Darge]

Going crazy trying to figure out a solution for my upcoming Epic bridge plate solution. Red offers the DSMC 19mm quick release system. I love the idea but I don't like the idea that it can't be adapted to a 15mm system so I'm holding off for now. Element Techinca sells their Hybrid plate which is awesome but they are currently not selling the riser plates anymore because of the bottom Epic-X redesign and they don't know when that will be in stock. I want to be fully prepared with accessories once my Epic-X arrives within a few weeks so want to know what people are doing that have their X cameras now. What are my options? I don't want to buy something today, only to have it not work for me tomorrow.

Thanks!

 

[John Marchant]

Forgive me if this is not what you mean, but surely these items together solve your request:

http://www.red.com/store/rail-components/product/quick-release-platform-dovetail
http://www.red.com/store/rail-components/product/dsmc-universal-mount-15mm

The 19mm mounts usually seen on the Red quickrelease are separate removable pieces. If you're after studio offset this isn't applicable, but it doesn't sound like that's what you're after anyway.

 

[Jake Bastian]

15mm studio setups are offset. Everything RED offers is centered. I have heard that offset is coming, there's just no telling when.

Edit: The problem isn't solved with a different universal mount, it would be on the bridge plate or the riser:
http://www.elementtechnica.com/hybrid/

 

[Chris Hagan]

You could always order the Element Technica 15mm offset pieces for the hybrid and attach those to the QR Bridge plate.

 

[R. Gonzales]

Rick the bottom of the Epic has been redesigned??

How has it been redesigned? I thought just the top?

because of the bottom Epic-X redesign

 

[Rick Darge]

No clue, this is what ET just told me over the phone..

 

[R. Gonzales]

Apparently it will not work as expected. The 15mm spacing is still centred on the QR Bridge plate regardless which system one choses.

You could always order the Element Technica 15mm offset pieces for the hybrid and attach those to the QR Bridge plate.

 

[R. Gonzales]

Hmm, I'll check out Off Hollywood's pics and take a closer look.

Thanks

No clue, this is what ET just told me over the phone..

 

[Meryem Ersoz]

I'm still using the original ET 15mm and 19mm bridge plates with one of these, as a serviceable riser: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E4VDLG/ref=ox_ya_os_product

makes the whole thing quick-release, which is kinda nice.

I'll upgrade my support systems eventually, but also waiting while all these new goodies get released - don't want to spend a buncha money on accessories now in the early innings, only to have better stuff released within the next year. settling for things that are currently workable and not expensive.

 

[Steven-Marc C.]

Hi Meryem,

Do you mean to say that that Manfrotto plate has the correct height to act as a riser plate and allow for mounting a MatteBox on the 19mm/15mm rods?

 

[Meryem Ersoz]

I'm saying, it is working on my ET 19 and 15mm bridge plates as a serviceable riser (add one layer of gaff tape between the bridge plate and Manfrotto), to perfect the height) which allows me to use my Redrock mattebox and O'Connor follow focus without having to invest in whole new plates systems to achieve the right height.

I'm only suggesting it as an inexpensive solution until more options are released. To avoid the cycle of buying something in the early innings, then wishing I had waited. This solution, for about $50, lets me wait and still use all of my original RED ONE accessories. I spent $900 on each of these plates, and I'm not ready to retire or replace them yet. So I guess the answer is yes, that is what I'm saying...at least in regards to using those accessories. I can't speak to others. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Steven-Marc C.]

Thank you Meryem, sounds like a possible interim solution until the dust settles. I agree with the need to find simple solutions which work with existing and widespread equipment. I believe Viewfactor and Actionproducts also make a shim plate which remains somewhat affordable ($250).

 

[R. Schorman]

If you want a more affordable riser with a variety of hole spacings, we will have something for you Monday on our site. Riser, 15mm LW bracket, top and side handles, and something else that is a must for NATO users.

 

[Florian Stadler]

FMJ bottom plate/Viewfactor/BrookW

 

[Justin R Goff]

Thank you Meryem, sounds like a possible interim solution until the dust settles. I agree with the need to find simple solutions which work with existing and widespread equipment. I believe Viewfactor and Actionproducts also make a shim plate which remains somewhat affordable ($250).

If you want a more affordable riser with a variety of hole spacings, we will have something for you Monday on our site. Riser, 15mm LW bracket, top and side handles, and something else that is a must for NATO users.

I hope some of these can be of help!

ActionProducts Universal Arri Adapter Plate
+
Bridgeplate

The Universal Arri Adapter Plate, is fully modular and allows you to switch rigs in a matter of seconds. Utilizing the universal Arri mounting profile, the Universal Arri Adapter Plate will drastically cut down on your time spent changing setups.

Also featuring a safety latch, this adapter plate ensures extremely quick and smooth transitions between various camera set ups, while giving you peace of mind with your equipment. Mount directly onto our ShoulderMount pad, any tripod, Actioncam/steamicam rig, or any dovetail mount for a more balanced set-up. Simply slide your bridgeplate off, and onto another setup!

-16.5 cm (6.5") long
-Several 1/4" and 3/8" threads to place where ever your tripod-plate or dovetail allows it
-Safety latch to avoid accidentally dropping the camera
-High quality milled design
-DUROX hard-anodized
-Swiss made with Aircraft 7075 grade aluminum

ActionProducts EPIC Riser Plate

-Acts as spacer to use industry standard base plates and matte boxes
-Accepts 15mm light weight rod assembly (ActionProducts and other)
-Tape measure hook on left and right for focal plane measurement
-Swiss made with Aircraft 7075 grade aluminum

ActionProducts EPIC Audio Adapter (+ Riser Plate)

-2 x 3.5mm jack plug to Pro XLR at rear
-Audio wires ran through the inside of the plate, protecting them and keeping them out of the way
-Swiss made with Aircraft 7075 grade aluminum
-Redesigned as smaller, modular accessory, to allow easier access to all cables




ActionProducts EPIC 15mm RodMount Lite + Riser

-Comes with Riser for industry standard spacing
-15mm DSMC centered standard
-Allows for lighter camera set-ups utilizing the Epic
-Swiss made with Aircraft 7075 grade aluminum
-Estimated to be shipping by mid-late August

ActionProducts EPIC 15mm RodMount Audio

-Works with Audio Adapter and Riser
-Protects 3.5mm Audio Plugs and hides them neatly
-15mm DSMC centered standard
-Allows for lighter camera set-ups utilizing the Epic
-Swiss made with Aircraft 7075 grade aluminum

ActionProducts EPIC Top Plate

-Power sockets the EPIC lacks (requires power source like V-mount battery)
-Provides BNC connectors for HD-SDI (the current EPIC BNC is located in a difficult to get to spot and this is a very important BNC)
-SS/GPI; TC; GENLOCK BNC's (rather than the small 4 pin connector the EPIC uses)
-Milled to allow for backfocus adjustment
-Can work standalone or with the Power Distributor
-Swiss made with 7075 aircraft grade aluminum
-Redesigned to work properly with shoulder mounts (new design reroutes all cords away from your face)

I hope this helps. Please check out our EPIC Accessories thread for more updates!
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[James Drake]

Does the Red mounting plate for Epic with quick release system nullify the need for a shim plate? Currently on backorder at ET/3ality for a shim plate but would love to consolidate to one solution...

maybe that was Red's thinking when designing the Epic a bit short...?

 

[R. Gonzales]

You might want to check again. The shim plate lists as available on the website.

Currently on backorder at ET/3ality

 

[James Drake]

it says available, but maybe we bought at the wrong time, ours is definitely back-ordered.

My question was resolved by Jeff Kilgroe, who informed me that yes, the QR system does situate the Epic to the correct height and we therefore do NOT need an Epic Shim plate in addition to the Epic mounting plate and QR system.

Which makes sense. I realized that this was probably Red's intent from the beginning... I wish it were a little more clear, but I'm glad to have a solid answer now.

 

[Evin Grant]

Here is Brook/Viewfactor's FMJ riser pate with an original Red 15mm Arri studio bridgeplate...

I thnk the original base is still the best, most secure mounting option. I think the extra weight is a good thing in a studio config.

The new Red QR system is really slick but not yet compatile with the LA 15mm offset dogma.

As for the botom of the X bing different, nothings been mentined that I know of.

 

[Dave Weber]

If you want a more affordable riser with a variety of hole spacings, we will have something for you Monday on our site. Riser, 15mm LW bracket, top and side handles, and something else that is a must for NATO users.

Hey Ryan,

any news yet? nothing new on your site.