Blackmagic Fusion out today. Same pricing as Resolve.

[Brandon J.F.]

$995 for the full version. I'm really curious how this compares with Nuke.
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/fusion

More: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/fusion/compare

 

[Akin A]

Does this integrate w/ Resolve?
I switched from Premiere to Resolve as my main NLE, but I still use Premiere for green screen work because Resolve doesn't have a chroma keyer built in.

 

[Rick van den Berg]

this is awesome!! i guess we did see this coming, and im glad i waited a little longer before purchasing it @akin: i dont think so yet. but there are keying tools like primatte in fusion

 

[Brandon J.F.]

This would explain why The Foundry is releasing an unwatermarked free version of Nuke. I wonder how the full version of Fusion compares featurewise to the full version of Nuke.

 

[Björn Benckert]

Wow, Nuke gets a run for it's money for sure. Nice to see this, I wounder how Autodesk will tackle it. They have not sold their FFI's since 2013.... now they just finnished their 2015 Flame, Flame asist and Flare... And they give 2 Assist license away per flame.. and smoke comes at a cloud deal. If Autodesk was smart, they would just let smoke 2015 go for free now or I think they will have a hard time to win the money back that they spent on moving over to float and higher bits. Really interesting times

 

[Scott Crawley]

This would explain why The Foundry is releasing an unwatermarked free version of Nuke. I wonder how the full version of Fusion compares featurewise to the full version of Nuke.

They are? Wow

 

[Brandon J.F.]

They are? Wow

Yeah, it's supposed to be for non-commercial work only...

Details:

Oh, and with Blackmagic Fusion you get unlimited render nodes...

Free unlimited network rendering plus Amazon Web Services virtual servers could be an interesting combination...

 

[Enrique Blein]

Why Windows only?

 

[Bob Gundu]

Why Windows only?

Fusion was never written for Mac. This is a product BM just bought recently and is just rebranding right now. However, they may make a mac version eventually.

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/press/pressdetails?releaseID=61765

 

[Scott Crawley]

- wow... those are some pretty serious limitations

Yeah, it's supposed to be for non-commercial work only...

Details:

Oh, and with Blackmagic Fusion you get unlimited render nodes...

Free unlimited network rendering plus Amazon Web Services virtual servers could be an interesting combination...

 

[Elias Tejeda]

The free version of Fusion doesnt allow the network nodes/render farm functionality, but still impressive nonetheless

 

[Brandon J.F.]

I didn't mean to imply that the free version had unlimited render nodes. It comes free with the studio version. It used to cost $1000 for 10 nodes.

 

[Gabe Conroy]

- wow... those are some pretty serious limitations

Yeah especially considering the free version of Fusion even let's you do 4k (or at least Ultra HD) export...basically just the very high end features are taken out.

 

[Elias Tejeda]

I didn't mean to imply that the free version had unlimited render nodes. It comes free with the studio version. It used to cost $1000 for 10 nodes.

Ah I see, fair enough.

 

[Christoffer Glans]

I'm not at all familiar with Fusion, but how good will this be when the new release of Element3D for After Effects features a a lot of advanced radiosity and shadows for 3D compositing in real time?
I'm not sure in what way Fusion is better than AE, can someone give some examples of processes that you gain by using Fusion?

 

[Bob Gundu]

Working with nodes is the only way I can work. I've never been able to get into AE for that reason. I'm sure we'll see vast improvements in DaVinci too because of fusion.

 

[Petr Dvorak]

Nods!

 

[Christoffer Glans]

I get that it's nodes and the benefits with that, but I'm very familiar with AE and Element3D and I'm not sure that I will gain by putting a lot of time into relearning things in Fusion 7. Are there any radical improvements working with Fusion 7 compared to AE or is it marginal?

 

[Björn Benckert]

I'm not at all familiar with Fusion, but how good will this be when the new release of Element3D for After Effects features a a lot of advanced radiosity and shadows for 3D compositing in real time?
I'm not sure in what way Fusion is better than AE, can someone give some examples of processes that you gain by using Fusion?

Node based composting is the way of the future.... composting with nested layers is way photoshop was built back in the days and they made AE ontop of that. But the way AE is built it can only get so and so far before they need to rethink and swap over to nodes instead.
I think fusion will not really be just fusion in the future.. then they will have difficulty to get nuke user to move over but if they implement it in reslove which I'm sure they will then it's a completely different ball game.

 

[Christoffer Glans]

Yeah, I'm working a lot in Resolve and it has a basic form of nodes compared to VFX (which can get a lot more complicated), but does Fusion 7 at this moment have anything that really improves it over AE on top of that? They did use AE for films like Gone Girl, so AE is still quite powerful, but I get that it's not an optimized system for pure film post production and rather aimed more at motion graphics, but I haven't tried Fusion yet and it's an entire change in infrastructure to change into that with plugins etc. so it would be nice to hear if anyone who has experience with both could say something about what the benefits and drawbacks are with Fusion 7 compared to AE.