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Birger Lens Mount & Follow Focus

HI Darkline
The wheel only controls the lens by wire or wireless there is no physical geared control, except by a possible outboard motor control to relate to some as yet to be determined motors (Red?)
Focus and Iris are unsure: Probably the best set up is two wheels one for focus one for iris. toggle is also possible not yet announced imo.
If you don't move the wheel more or push more buttons the iris will stay in the same place.
buttons on the mount have been proposed.

Hey Mcgregor.... I've made some machinist changes to a short run product before and it takes time to get back costs and get a work up.... Eric is way ahead of the curve on this and is putting in much - to - be - appreciated.... last minute changes. Which I for one am more than willing to wait for as I have nothing to put them on yet.
 
Did the prices come out on this yet?
 
Pricing... at long last...

Pricing... at long last...

planetearth said:
Yeah, it is a good one. I keep tuning in for prices though. Looks promising that the product release could coincide with the release of RED - fingers crossed.
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Twist my arm... though we are still working out final details for the announcement I will pre-announce pricing...

The lens mount will be $950 and the cable to connect it to the RED camera lens port will be $75. The follow focus knob that mounts on the camera rails is $300 and the cable to attach this to the lens mount is also $75. We will have a wireless controller, with an LCD and two control surfaces (a knob and a slider) available in October for $600. Development of this controller will be public, on reduser.net.

When I first met Jim, he said something along the lines of: engineer a great solution, charge a fair price, and the volume will happen. (Sorry Jim, if I butchered this). One of the other things I have learned by watching Jim/RED is that the loyalty of the early adopters should be rewarded. So, anybody who reserves the first four items listed by the end of August (with a 20% refundable deposit), and schedules/takes delivery by the end of the calendar year, will receive our wireless controller for free.

As time goes on, the lens mount and camera cable will be the minimum configuration, as data will be sent to the camera (in the same way a Cooke or Broadcast lens does) and control surfaces such as CVB/viewfactor's remote and RED's supergrip are planned to be compatible. Prior to the integration with the camera, and/or availability of our wireless controller, a Palm PDA or laptop with Bluetooth will be required for setting up the system, and adjusting things like knob direction and gain. An appropriate PDA is the Palm Tungsten E2 ($199) or the Palm TX ($299). Any Bluetooth device with a terminal emulator and a 1SPP profile will also work fine (i.e. a laptop).

I will start a new thread in the next day or two, with current images of the prototypes, a complete feature list, pricing/reservations and any other pertinent information.
 
Thanks Eric! Very generous offer, so $1400 for the mount, cables ff knob AND the wireless controller. Awesome stuff!

So deposit before end of august will be $280 correct?
 
PaulClements said:
Thanks Erik! Very generous offer, so $1400 for the mount, cables ff knob AND the wireless controller. Awesome stuff! So deposit before end of august will be $280 correct?
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Correct.

Anders Holck said:
Nice, it's all coming together now.
Will any of this stuff be shown at IBC?
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I may go to IBC, but we definitely won't have a booth. Haven't been to Amsterdam yet...:innocent: but will probably decide that it provides more value to schedule/customers to stay in Boston... :unsure:
 
birgerEngineer said:
So, anybody who reserves the first four items listed by the end of August (with a 20% refundable deposit), and schedules/takes delivery by the end of the calendar year, will receive our wireless controller for free.
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Consider this a reservation right now. Tell me how, when and where and I'm in.

Cheers,D
ale
 
birgerEngineer said:
The lens mount will be $950 and the cable to connect it to the RED camera lens port will be $75. The follow focus knob that mounts on the camera rails is $300 and the cable to attach this to the lens mount is also $75. We will have a wireless controller, with an LCD and two control surfaces (a knob and a slider) available in October for $600. Development of this controller will be public, on reduser.net.
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This is going to be huge for the guys who take the still lens route - Remote focus and Iris at low cost.

Can't wait to see it in action.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com
 
Now this is what I'm talking about!
Erik, you are my hero, now If I can jus get my hands on a pre-production unit for the LART!
Hint, hint.

P.S. I'm asuming it will be the same price for Nikon AF as the Canon EOS no?
And will it drive the screw type Nikkors or only the AFS?
 
Evin Grant said:
now If I can jus get my hands on a pre-production unit for the LART! Hint, hint.
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Already promised Gibby...

Evin Grant said:
P.S. I'm asuming it will be the same price for Nikon AF as the Canon EOS no? And will it drive the screw type Nikkors or only the AFS?
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We are only promising AF-S support. As we have been working on the protocol, it seems Nikon accounted for the backlash problem rather well. I need to play with a lot more AF lenses before I know if this will actually be a usable feature. If it is, we will look into adding a screw drive for AF lenses. Either way, we will charge the same price as the Canon.
 
This is great news. This whole revolution of thinking out of the box, this is what RED is in the film world, and what this adapter will help bring to the cine lens world.

Thanks for the great incentive Erik.
 
Fantastic news, Erik! The pricing sounds entirely reasonable, and in line with the rest of the RED modus operandi. Anyone thinking of using still lenses with their RED (like me) would be crazy to not buy your lens mount.

The big question now is... Canon or Nikon???
 
If this works smoothly and accurately then its the way to go for me.

I confess I'm new to understanding FF in depth, but it seems to radically undercut the other follow focus systems out there for what it is offering.

I cant wait to hear how it performs on gibbys test
 
Sounds like a reasonable price. Looks like my Canon/Sigma glass will get some use after all.
 
red nikon mount also necessarry?

red nikon mount also necessarry?

I just want to clarify whether or not the nikon birger mount completely replaces the red nikon mount or whether both are required?

Count me in for the package either way! This is one of the most exciting developments in ages.

Vince
 
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