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Ben Affleck & Salvatore Totino ASC, AIC take the Sony BURANO for a spin around LA

Fun seeing Ben geek out. He’s done the same with the REDs in the past. I think he genuinely likes the cinematography side and seems to be really into the tech side of things.
 
Kind of feel sorry for the dude, he clearly knows his stuff and can shoot, but has to deal with other people's attitudes about it.

I get that in a professional setting it can be better to have everyone staying in their own lane and there's a definite advantage in having a talented and experienced cinematographer exercise their control over the shooting, but on the flip side, it can also result in some shitty behaviour towards people trying something a bit different.

I'd like to see someone (anyone) with that amount of talent in the fields of acting, writing, directing and cinematography work on a project where they can combine and practice all those creative talents and skills freely and unapologetically. Not in a selfish, self-indulgent way as often happens with auteur-driven 'vanity' projects, but in service of telling a story in a way that's respectful towards its audience while also allowing for the individual's practicing of their art.
 
The video seems to have been re-edited due to criticisms concerning safety while filming in a car.
Someone in another forum posted this safety video regarding filming in cars and I have to admit
it's a bit sobering.


Brian Timmons
BRITIM/MEDIA
 
They edited out the shots where the cinematographer was standing up and leaning out the front passenger-side window while shooting back down through it for some reason.

I think the airbag video is a good example and reminder of how bad it can be if things go wrong, but what's the solution or alternative?

Wouldn't you have to place the camera so it's out of range of a deploying airbag and secure it inside the car like you would if it were attached outside the car?
 
Les Hillis said:
They edited out the shots where the cinematographer was standing up and leaning out the front passenger-side window while shooting back down through it for some reason.

I think the airbag video is a good example and reminder of how bad it can be if things go wrong, but what's the solution or alternative?

Wouldn't you have to place the camera so it's out of range of a deploying airbag and secure it inside the car like you would if it were attached outside the car?
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That back seat over the shoulder shot starting to look better than I ever thought. :)

Brian Timmons
BRITIM/MEDIA
 
I guess if the driver promises not to crash or be crashed into I can promise them I won't let the camera smash into the back of their head.

But seriously, I can remember doing those front-passenger and rear-seat hand-held shots with about 10kg of camera and being vaguely aware of how potentially dangerous it was, then just ignoring it to focus on getting the shots.

I think if I find myself doing those kinds of shots again I'm going to plan ahead and at least find a way to make sure the camera doesn't become a wildly flying object in the event of a collision.
 
Man who films in a fair bit of vehicles here. In the original edit there was one very specific activity that people have died doing in recent history. That was the bit that was edited out and likely the eyebrow raising bit that people found disturbing.

Inside the vehicle, you likely don't need a harness beyond a seatbelt. Dangling outside the vehicle is generally frowned upon unless in very controlled and secure conditions. This wasn't exactly that. Things could go wrong both by the DP/operator and external variables, i.e. anything that can hit the fellow.

Though really not much harm done here, it's more or less promoting somewhat bad and/or unsafe practices, which has been largely the sensitivity tone in the last 12 years in the industry as a whole.

I'll add, there was another controversial video of people filming from the flatbed of a truck a few years ago, which I didn't find any issue with. Growing up and through early adulthood, that wasn't exactly an usual practice in many industries. Still isn't even with a loaded bed of tools, supplies, surfboards, or other oddities.
 
Yes - I saw the original cut of the video and the standing out the window bit.
I guess all camera people have a tendency to get seduced by the shot and we sometimes
throw prudence out the window (sorry for the pun) to get it.

As they say “it was a teaching moment.”

I got to briefly play with BURANO at a B&H event and have to say the camera made a lot more sense to me seeing it positioned amongst the other Cine-Alta cameras than just reading the specs on paper.

One Burano had Cooke anamorphics on it and I have to admit the sensor did a very job capturing what the lens gave it.

Did some whip pans to test the rolling shutter. it is there but it wasn’t horrible.
I did however see someone move the camera a few inches while it was on the tripod and the bumps in that move
did produce some pretty unwanted ”jello”.

Considering how popular the Venice line is I can understand Sony’s reasons for making the camera as a lower end counterpart.

Compared to a V-Raptor VV or X though ….. RED really made a remarkable camera.

Brian Timmons
BRITIM/MEDIA
 
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Using seatbelts and positioning the camera with an awareness of the force that can be applied by airbags deploying seems like a reasonable approach to filming hand-held under normal driving conditions.

Got nothing against Sony or their cameras, even if they're not my products of choice. But as much as anything, I can also appreciate their marketing and branding of them.

Makes me wonder how the advertising/marketing of the future RED/Nikon products might change.
 
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