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Olivier Gresse

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Hi,

I live in New Caledonia and I ordered new batteries Lion in GB for my Epic. The problem is that the store said to me that it is impossible to ship the batteries in my country because of new import law. Even the 90Wh !

I can't buy these type of batteries on the territory.

I really need these batteries but if I can't import them, how can I power my camera?

Any solution ?
 
This is very odd, I extremely well traveled, and never encounter such issue, even in some very far and remote prohibitive countries.

Batteries, despite of their size must bi shipped as Exec 9, Dangerous cargo, the 90wh & 100wh been the ones with better tolerance, the 270wh IO use and love for long operating hours and to power lighting are far more restricted in their shipping, but all MUST be shipped under the same rules and regulation on CARGO plains only!

Blueshape makes it easier for me now, as they created actual Shipping Cases with pre-printed labels for them.

Here you should make sure that it is your country indeed with the issue, and not the seller simply not willing to do the extra work of following shipping regulations for exec 9 dangerous goods.

Additionally they also come with Plastic insert to separate each contact.

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Tommaso Alvisi said:
I read the new IATA regulations prohibit shipping lithium batts by plane now...
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Not by plane in general. It's Passenger planes that are not allowed to, CARGO plane shipping it's fine and this is how I got this shipped strait from Italy as, just need to follow proper strict shipping regulation and fill out proper Dangerous Goods 9 forms.

This is what Blueshape has created for shipping, and I also use for trasnport :)

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Tommaso Alvisi said:
I read the new IATA regulations prohibit shipping lithium batts by plane now...
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Read again. No Lith Ion as check in. As carry on you can take one attached to camera and (2) spares if battery's btw 100-160wh per person. If the batteries below 100 wh, you can take more (only limit is carry on baggage weight). Contacts must be properly protected for short circuit (tape, covers or plugged into device).

Good FAA memo:
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_or...fo/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

So you've got a choice. Clothes, shoes, etc for carry on or batteries below 100 wh?

Still some airlines have their own rules so check. Also, other countries have stricter or more relaxed than FAA. So check again.
 
But you can carry on (only in cabin) without problem following those rools :


Li-Ion
(Without the need of special carrying case but you can tape the batteries terminal and they must show some minimal charge and working condition.)

<100wh (per battery) as many as you want
<160wh (per battery) 2 per passenger
>160wh (per battery) forbidden


LiPo all batteries are forbidden

Pat
 
this thread is so timely. traveling in a few weeks and just discovered this issue (is it new? never had a problem with security and smaller Canon AP batts.) Reading Delta's website, seems like I'll be good: 1 Red brick attached to camera and 1 spare brick in bag. 1 Canon batt attached to camera, 1 spare in bag. 600wh total, half attached and half as spare carry on. Think I'm good. :/
 
nice to hear!

I don't know why but 2 kickstarter projects I participated in, they sent the perks (which contains lithium ion cells) with cargo ship due to the new regulations effective since 1st of jan 2017...
 
Back to the original post and inquiry:

Olivier Gresse said:
Hi,

I live in New Caledonia and I ordered new batteries Lion in GB for my Epic. The problem is that the store said to me that it is impossible to ship the batteries in my country because of new import law. Even the 90Wh !

I can't buy these type of batteries on the territory.

I really need these batteries but if I can't import them, how can I power my camera?

Any solution ?
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Most all replies covered considerations when you are traveling with the batteries.

In this case, the OP is not escorting the batteries - but seeking to import them.

Did an online search and found that it is true - you cannot ship via air - including international mail - loose batteries into New Caledonia.
Some new regulations did come into existence on January 1st.
Apparently, attached within a camera is OK - but with stringent limits applied.


The scenario that Tommaso referred to - arranging the shipment via cargo ship - appears to be the work around.
 
i was just flying back from Egypt and my normal precautions saved my ass. I fly with 5 Dionic HC's (91wh) in my carry on (Pelican 15010) case, with my Epic body and all accessories I need to make the camera run. Lenses in my backpack with all other essentials. If I land and ALL my luggage gets delayed, I can still shot hand-held.

I keep a copy of the battery manual taped to the top of my Pelican 1510 under the upper foam. Page 7 has a disclaimer that says they are safe to travel via IATA guidelines.

http://www.antonbauer.com/dam/jcr:60ecf170-41d2-492b-ae68-a2a5538a6f00/86750074%20MANUAL%20DIONIC%20HC%20Rev%20B.pdf

Its saved me more than once... :)
 
Patrick Tresch said:
But you can carry on (only in cabin) without problem following those rools :


Li-Ion
(Without the need of special carrying case but you can tape the batteries terminal and they must show some minimal charge and working condition.)

<100wh (per battery) as many as you want
<160wh (per battery) 2 per passenger
>160wh (per battery) forbidden


LiPo all batteries are forbidden

Pat
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Actually Lipos are fine. Same restriction as Lith ion (see FAA)
 
As a drone and camera operator who works internationally frequently, my advise is:

1) Buy batteries that are below 100Wh - regardless whether lipo or li-ion (same rule). You can take them into cabin as many as the airline allows you. On one hawl I managed to carry 15kg of Lipos with me in a backpack. Don't remember but I think it was Lufthansa. Security guys checked lipos at scan, they scratched a little bit their head because there were so many haha. But I got passed without problems. They were all 99Wh.
2) If you need more juice, buy 2x 160Wh with very fast charging support. You can still take two into cabin.
Check out the new Heavy Duty Digital Pack from Swit. 6A fast charging support. 160Wh fully charged in 2.5h, 80% in 1.5h. If I have charging opportunity on set, I can get by with two of those with my Epic-W Rig for full day. Otherwise, Swit make dividable batteries too.

I know there is a way to ship higher capacity more than 160Wh via cargo. I have not done it yet but have already checked this options. It is more complicated and requires good planning.
I still prefer to carry on smaller battery and have them with me. Once landed on your destination, you are ready to go.

And believe me, rules are getting more strict with all the threads, bombing etc. going on right now.
Better keep every simple and small. My two cents.
 
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Whelp, I'm filming in Doha Qatar now and this ban has indeed gone into effect while I was here. Can't wait to see what it's like traveling home.

Can't really check the carry-ons. Herp derp.
 
Phil Holland said:
Whelp, I'm filming in Doha Qatar now and this ban has indeed gone into effect while I was here. Can't wait to see what it's like traveling home.

Can't really check the carry-ons. Herp derp.
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Intermediate flight to non-Muslim country? Yikes...
 
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