Battery Question

[zak forrest]

how could one mount the battery there? i dont know the exact measurements of the battery, perhaps my idea wouldnt work exactly as i would like anyway. but how exactly would you do this, and what accessories would you need. yes i am aware it would cover the headphone jack. maybe a tiny right angle headphone cable would be okay though. i want to mount a sennheiser 416 on top and would like to try having the battery flush against the camera body for certain shooting situations...

ALSO: are there any other third party batteries that are smaller that would work with red? even if it would mean changing them more frequently?

Does anyone have any ideas on how you could keep the top handle on the red and mount a sennheiser 416 on the angled part of the top of the camera just to the side of the top handle?

i'm in maryland and it's unlikely that i will be attending red day to play with everything and figure out all the accessories etc...

 

[David Battistella]

I am sure you could mount the battery to a side handle if you wanted it on the dumb side of the camera. That would also give you cable clearance.

The only caveat is that, with the side weight, you might disrupt the balance of the camera.

David

 

[RCFisher]

I am looking at a configuration similar. I am going to mount the battery at an angle in the back where it is in the photo to the rear of the top handle ext. I also plan on making a Mic bracket for the top rods that is to the right of the handle, similar to most eng cameras these days. As soon as I can get my hands on a camera!

 

[zak forrest]

has anyone though of some kind of handheld battery thing where the battery mounts to the bottom of the camera and has a shoulder pad built into it, or the battery is flush against the rear of the shoulder pad, something like this.

also is it kosher to use smaller batteries, even if you would have to change batteries more often, im really trying to get my rig super small for certain situations. i remember seeing some small batteries i think they were made for powering portable lights at birns and sawyer and i thought how great it would be to have several of those and power a camera with them when i wanted a smaller battery. is there any problem with doing this? maybe those wouldnt give enough power, but are there any smaller batteries that give enough power to power the red and lcd?

 

[Brook Willard]

You don't want to put the battery under/in a shoulder pad. It would raise the optical center of the camera too high for "normal" handheld operation.

I've rigged the battery in that position using a universal mount and the drive cradle. I mounted it farther back on the rods than in that position, but the idea's the same:

When the quick plate ships, you'll be able to do this without the drive cradle. You'll probably need the quick plate adapter to move it that far, as the quick plate has a slightly different mount than the drive cradle.

As for smaller batteries, I've seen the camera run off of smaller Dionic/Anton Bauer batteries. That said, the tiny little [maybe 60wh?] ABs weighed just as much as the RED 140s.

The bummer is that you [and the camera] will never know when the batteries are going to run out. When they *do* run out, the camera won't cut and power down properly... it'll just die as though the power were pulled.

 

[Martin Ludwig]

You don't want to put the battery under/in a shoulder pad. It would raise the optical center of the camera too high for "normal" handheld operation.

I've rigged the battery in that position using a universal mount and the drive cradle. I mounted it farther back on the rods than in that position, but the idea's the same:

When the quick plate ships, you'll be able to do this without the drive cradle. You'll probably need the quick plate adapter to move it that far, as the quick plate has a slightly different mount than the drive cradle.

As for smaller batteries, I've seen the camera run off of smaller Dionic/Anton Bauer batteries. That said, the tiny little [maybe 60wh?] ABs weighed just as much as the RED 140s.

The bummer is that you [and the camera] will never know when the batteries are going to run out. When they *do* run out, the camera won't cut and power down properly... it'll just die as though the power were pulled.

would be a good idea like in this picture do have a double mount. so you can use two batteries - and can change without shutting down the camera.

 

[zak forrest]

You don't want to put the battery under/in a shoulder pad. It would raise the optical center of the camera too high for "normal" handheld operation.

I've rigged the battery in that position using a universal mount and the drive cradle. I mounted it farther back on the rods than in that position, but the idea's the same:

When the quick plate ships, you'll be able to do this without the drive cradle. You'll probably need the quick plate adapter to move it that far, as the quick plate has a slightly different mount than the drive cradle.

As for smaller batteries, I've seen the camera run off of smaller Dionic/Anton Bauer batteries. That said, the tiny little [maybe 60wh?] ABs weighed just as much as the RED 140s.

The bummer is that you [and the camera] will never know when the batteries are going to run out. When they *do* run out, the camera won't cut and power down properly... it'll just die as though the power were pulled.

Thanks for the info and the pic brook, much appreciated =]

I guess you are right about the optical center etc, but what about something like this, where its behind the shoulder mount and as flush against it and the camera body as possible.

Thanks for the info regarding the power off with smaller batteries. So the Red batteries are the ONLY ones that provide information regarding when it runs out?

Any advice for me if I wanted to do some tests with smaller batteries to see aprox how long they last, so I could have a good idea as to when to switch batteries before rolling camera and hopefully never running into that problem if I wanted to use smaller batteries sometimes? Should I just power it on and roll camera and see how long it lasts until it runs out and then subtract some minutes to give myself some security? or do different modes on the camera take up battery life quicker than others? how much leeway should I give myself from a test with smaller batteries, and what would be the best way of testing them?

Are there any photos of the battery flush against the back of the camera without the cradle? If one does that, is it easy to move it out of the way to access the rear controls of the camera?

 

[Jens Jakob Thorsen]

Wow thats nice

 

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

HI Brook : what is that between the 2 batteries backside of the camera ?
what they did call it ? is it power distributer ? need some help here :excl:

 

[Anders Holck]

It's a single battery with a AJA downconverter in the battery/red drive cradle.

 

[Cüneyt Kaya]

what is the benefit of using the aja converter?

 

[Greg M]

for SD monitors, printers and DV clam shells, etc. Basically for Video Assist and Video Village.

 

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

It's a single battery with a AJA downconverter in the battery/red drive cradle.

HI THANKS for answer but what is AJA downconverter what it can do ?

 

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

for SD monitors, printers and DV clam shells, etc. Basically for Video Assist and Video Village.

YOU MEAN It will supply multi voltage and Amps , rates for every one of the accessories ?

 

[Finner]

YOU MEAN It will supply multi voltage and Amps , rates for every one of the accessories ?

No it down converts a HD signal to a SD signal that can then be sent out.

 

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

thanks ..for smplify things for me ,, just wondering if there is any adapters have multi power output supply to serve any accessories ?

 

[Finner]

What you are refering to is often called power splitters and they are easy to get made up depending on what kind of output you need.