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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Bad news...

Disappointed, but totally understandable. We have all waited this long Jim. We can wait a little longer.

I think we all know that you are ALL doing what you can to bring these products to market and we are fully 100% behind you.

There will be a day when EPIC's are out to all your customers that want one and you'll be happy and content (for a while!)

You have my support and understanding and my money and loyalty when the time comes to ship.

Thanks for the update.

Steve
 
Jannard said:
I have to say, quite candidly, that there are days when I wonder if this is all worth it. The pain of pushing the limits. Doing something that no others would attempt. Tonight was it for me.
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Jim, we all have times when we are feeling down and all of us on here can relate to that feeling. The news is slightly disappointing but it's ok. We understand and appreciate all the effort that you and everyone at RED puts in and we all feel your frustration. However, personally I have found your motto helpful "Everything in life changes ......". When I look at what you are doing and what your nearest competitors are doing there is no contest, RED has forced changes in the industry for the better. Jim, what you do really is worth it! Just promise all of us that you will take a long holiday and some "me" time when the time comes.

Matt
 
We're filmmakers...and that's what we are going to do until we all have Epics: make films. That's not going to change during this small wait for most of us. There are already Epic-M's in the wild, you are still going to be releasing Epic-Xs at NAB and beyond...we just aren't getting the faucet turned on full blast for an additional couple of months. It's not like Epics aren't being produced.

It's like waiting a little longer for a really awesome party: You really wish it were happening right now, but once you actually get there, you're going to forget about the wait and enjoy yourself. We've just been pre-gaming for a while...so we will be completely prepared for when you release the hounds. :}
 
There are people in northern Japan who are walking in radiation trying to stop the incredible madness... they are walking in radiation that will affect their lives forever. And we are worried about supply chain? It just doesn't seem right.

The balance in the world is much more delicate than we could ever imagine. A camera? A life?

Jim
 
Hey Jim, It looks like you went thru fourteen minutes of Hell there. Don't worry, we all have RED ONEs, the RED ONE is good enough to shoot a Rocking Feature or Music Video on. Believe it or not .... there really is NO RUSH. U still da MAN! Ya want some advice, quit smoking and start walking .... get/use a treadmill.
 
Thousands of people washed up on beaches dead. Buried alive. Whole families wiped out, cities wiped out. If anyone rates the delayed receipt of their EPIC-X as intolerable compared to that human tragedy, then good luck to you.
 
Jannard said:
There are people in northern Japan who are walking in radiation trying to stop the incredible madness... they are walking in radiation that will affect their lives forever. And we are worried about supply chain? It just doesn't seem right.

The balance in the world is much more delicate than we could ever imagine. A camera? A life?

Jim
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Deep! very deep! I am truly humbled.
 
I'm really shocked by the number of people who don't seem to understand that gravity of the problems facing the people of Japan right now, especially shocking when it's people on the eastern edge of "the Ring of Fire" who's lives could also be changed forever with one small movement of our planets tectonic plates.

I thought that making films was an obsession to understand life, human behaviour and interaction, to chart and map the natural world and to record our society so that we have some understanding of our own mortality as we watch things around us change.

I'm saving for a Scarlet or Epic S and right now I'm not concerned with when the supply chain will mean that my camera can be built, I'm concerned with this: Do I really NEED a camera? Yes, I WANT one. But Is my WANT grater than someone else's NEED? Let's be honest, we live in a free (ish) world where if none of us ever shoot another frame, somewhere someone will help opressed voices get heard through media and someone will be there to record human history. They might just have to use an Arri or Sony.

My dilemma right now is thinking that my camera fund could buy someone a table to sit at, a bath or shower to wash in or a warm bowl of food tonight. And just when I think that soon enough with all the good will in the world, Japan will rebuild itself, I remember that there are Billions of people who live in poverty permanently.

Jim, take a holiday, be with your family and take care of the blood pressure.
 
Jannard said:
There are people in northern Japan who are walking in radiation trying to stop the incredible madness... they are walking in radiation that will affect their lives forever. And we are worried about supply chain? It just doesn't seem right.

The balance in the world is much more delicate than we could ever imagine. A camera? A life?

Jim
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THIS is the essential post.

Delays happen, have happened and will happen.

In the meantime we shoot and produce. Nothing stopping that.

The Epic sounds and looks like a wonderful camera, and I cannot wait to get one, BUT after all, I can just fire up my RED ONE.

There are bigger issues in life.

The information is good to have when planning upcoming productions, though.

Thanks for the update, and smoke those healthy Cubanese with a low pulse.

Cheers!

Gunleik
 
Jim, after seeing the head of the nuclear safety research center in Norway, who is Japanese (most of the safety testing has been done here), suddenly bursting out in tears on the evening news - not for sympathy, but from pain from the deepest levels of his heart when thinking about his co-workers in Japan, his nation and the situation of despair; a delay to the Epic program is the last of my concern, and probably the rest of us on these forums. Hope Red as a company and your health personally won't be too much in damage because of the situation, and good luck on finding the solutions.

Best regards from Norway,
Jon Michael Puntervold
 
C'mon, the world didn't end today ;-)

Martin Weiss said:
A Time for Everything
There is a time for everything,

and a season for every activity under heaven:

a time to be born and a time to die,

a time to plant and a time to uproot,

a time to kill and a time to heal,

a time to tear down and a time to build,

a time to weep and a time to laugh,

a time to mourn and a time to dance,

a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,

a time to embrace and a time to refrain,

a time to search and a time to give up,

a time to keep and a time to throw away,

a time to tear and a time to mend,

a time to be silent and a time to speak,

a time to love and a time to hate,

a time for war and a time for peace.




And whenever the time for our EPIC comes, I'll be ready for it.

Don't let this ruin your health. We need you also in the future, Jim.
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I second the wisdom of Martin's words, as well, the Ecclesiastes quote, let's stop this vibe :)
 
JustinC said:
I thought that making films was an obsession to understand life, human behaviour and interaction, to chart and map the natural world and to record our society so that we have some understanding of our own mortality as we watch things around us change.
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My dilemma right now is thinking that my camera fund could buy someone a table to sit at, a bath or shower to wash in or a warm bowl of food tonight. And just when I think that soon enough with all the good will in the world, Japan will rebuild itself, I remember that there are Billions of people who live in poverty permanently.
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I too am shocked at the amount of people who don't realise the gravity of what is happening but I think that there are a lot of intelligent people on this forum and I think that if we all collectively put our heads together we could come up with something that could raise a serious amount of money that could help the Japanese people.

Matt
 
Jannard said:
I have to say, quite candidly, that there are days when I wonder if this is all worth it. The pain of pushing the limits. Doing something that no others would attempt. Tonight was it for me.

Then I went and turned on my EPIC. I needed to. Therapy. I picked it up and held it. I set it to 5K 2.4:1 at 120fps. I looked closely at the Matte box. Then the quick release. And the touchscreen... then I was OK.

Life is full of obstacles. They never end. The ones the get past them have the richest life.

I consider myself lucky.

Jim
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And you're totally right to feel that way. There are so few who achieve anything similar to what you have.

Tragedies are neither measurable nor foreseeable. The one in Japan that we are still witnessing might be one of the worst.
At least for my lifetime up to now. There are politicians in Germany who blame the tragedy in Japan for their loss in votes
and therefore that they lost the election past weekend. These guys should feel bad!
Don't be mad about yourself, that a delivery delay makes you upset. It's just plain normal, because you all were fighting so hard for it.
Maybe you're disappointed, upset, sad or whatever, but you are not trying to blame anyone for it, nor are you taking the delay more serious than the events in Japan.
And that is what's important.

You made it. EPIC is real and being built. The ones who can afford them, do so already. Projects are being shot.
Although maybe the EPIC start might officially be NAB 2011, EPIC has already started in 2010.
If shipment delays would happen in a year from now, it wouldn't feel so bad but it wouldn't be much different.

Thank you very much again for all you have done for the revolution in the industry. You have all the right to be proud.

"Life is full of obstacles. They never end. The ones the get past them have the richest life."

I'll hang that over my workstation....
 
As a tragedy, what's happening in Japan will affect generations - a little delay to industries right now with a plethora of existing tools is a small inconvenience.

In saying that, the Japan Effect is wide ranging. Anyone out there shooting Sony and having to buy HDCAM-SR tapes en masse anytime soon will also be feeling the pain for example. If RED ONE wasn't around then the effect to the industry of this Tsunami would be a heck of a lot worse in terms of digital shooting. By being disruptive and different, Red also offers one more alternative when this sort of disaster strikes, and that is something we can be thankful for.
 
Totally understandable, I'll wait. No problem !
 
I know that some are anxious to get their Epic cameras, but I love the Red One that I have now. Perhaps it's because I've had less time than others to shoot with this great camera.

It's 6:30am at a Starbucks in NYC, and today is a pretty good day because we are shooting my Red on another commercial.

Stay in good health and keep on breaking the mold.

If it was easy ... everyone would be doing it.
 
Don't worry jim we are all with you,the camera that you are about to provide us with is worth the wait, its a revolution, and even if we have to wait a little bit longer its nothing compared to what we will get after the wait is over, EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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