Backpack for Red?

[donatello b]

i too have been using the cyberpack (a.k.a the Gibby ) ..
am very happy with it ....

 

[Matthew Chuang]

The tamrac bags are beautifully made, extremely well designed. I havent used mine with a RED cause we have a pelican for it but if I needed to be extremely portable and running around I would definately use the tamrac.

 

[Shawn Nelson]

woohoo! Here it is!

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Glad you went with the KATA 207 Shawn, you will enjoyed.

I have already put maine true much work and various configurations, I love it, and the 17" MAc Book Pro in the Lap top compartment is so safe even when loading 20lb of gear in the front main compartments.


Now go do some traveling


ciao

 

[Steve Gibby]

Shawn, take the 5258 as packed by Giddens in his photos. Works fine for me - walk miles without problems as Gibby said and i am much older than Gibby and you.

Lim

Thanks for that compliment Lim...

I'll be 60 years old in a few months, so I'm actually one of the oldest members of RED User - even older than my friend Jim Jannard!

I think young, have a young lifestyle, and I pay close attention to physical fitness, so people I meet have a hard time guessing my age.

Good fitness enables my lifestyle and the mobile styles of production I love to do...

 

[Steve Gibby]

I'm sure either the Tamrac 5258 CyberPack 8 or the Kata 207 will work fine for most people.

In over eight months of flying around my RED kits around with the Tamrac 5258 I've yet to fly on a plane where I couldn't carry it on and fit it either in the overhead or under the seat - and I fly regularly on a wide range of aircraft, from small/midsize commuter aircraft to large jets.

That said, the 5258 sometimes fits in the overhead bin, but most often fits under the seat in front of me. The width of the 5258 is 13.5", and it just fits between the frames of the seats on aircraft. The width of the Kata 207 is 15.3", and that makes it too wide to fit between the seat frames on many aircraft.

The overall exterior dimensions of the Kata 207 are roughly 53". The overall exterior dimensions of the Tamrac 5258 are just under 45".

The majority of airlines restrict their carry-on baggage to a total exterior dimension of 45". There are some that restrict the total exterior dimensions to 51" (see Travel Insider link below). Again, the total exterior dimension of the Tamrac 5258 is just under 45", and the Kata 207 is just over 53".

Bottom line 1: the Tamrac 5258 will fit either in the overhead bin or under the seat on all commercial aircraft, both large jets and commuter aircraft. The Kata 207 will fit in the overhead bin on some jets, but will not fit under the seat on most jets, and will definitely not fit anywhere on a commuter aircraft.

Bottom line 2: With the majority of commercial aircraft limiting the total exterior dimensions to 45", and a minority limiting total exterior dimensions to 51", the Kata 207, with its total of over 53" is technically not allowable for carry-on with airlines. Ketch, if you've been doing it, fine, but those who use the Kata 207 need to remember that airlines are getting stricter and stricter with the size and weight of carry-on bags - because a heavier plane burns more fuel. At any time as you try to board with your Kata 207 the airline you're flying on could enforce their size limits and make you check your Kata 207. Your soft backpack may not fare too well in a crammed baggage hold in the aircraft.

Links to more info:

The Travel Insider (scroll to table):
http://www.thetravelinsider.info/travelaccessories/internationalcarryonluggageallowances.htm

Bob Atkins articles on carry-ons:
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/carry_on_restrictions.html

http://photo.net/learn/nature/carryon

TSA carry-on regulations:
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm#2

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Life (and production life) is full of choices. My production choices are formulated for maximum mobility, and the least amount of hassle (and expense) at airports. Choose wisely - your choices will either save you money or potentially cost you more money.

 

[Shawn R]

Threads like this one make being a part of Reduser all worthwhile. Good advice all around without any B.S..

 

[Radim Schreiber]

Where do you place matt box and filters when backpacking?

 

[ericyoung]

In the EU, the biggest carryon pack without wheels that dimensionwise is acceptable on all the common airlines is the Think Tank Airport Addicted Version 2 (without the included 15" laptop sleeve. It's a very good pack. Unfortunately, if you fill it up completely with Red gear, you're looking at 20kg, which is twice the weight limit of most airlines (except Easyjet which doesn't have a weight limit as long as you can put it in the overhead unassisted!). Airlines are getting more stringent about weighing, so beware you may have to check it if it's over the weight limit for a particular airline.

Note it's shoulder straps aren't comfortable for extended hiking. The slightly smaller Lowepro Computrekker Plus AW is better for that, although the padded laptop compartment is rather redundant if you want to be sure it isn't too big for the dimension limits.

 

[Ed Watkins]

On all my recent flights into and out of Heathrow and Gatwick, the airlines weighed my hand luggage, the max limit was 13lbs. They even made me take out my laptop on one occasion and hand carry it.

I'd be careful trying to hand carry your red from UK to US on planes, my guess is they will make you check it.

In the EU, the biggest carryon pack without wheels that dimensionwise is acceptable on all the common airlines is the Think Tank Airport Addicted Version 2 (without the included 15" laptop sleeve. It's a very good pack. Unfortunately, if you fill it up completely with Red gear, you're looking at 20kg, which is twice the weight limit of most airlines (except Easyjet which doesn't have a weight limit as long as you can put it in the overhead unassisted!). Airlines are getting more stringent about weighing, so beware you may have to check it if it's over the weight limit for a particular airline.

Note it's shoulder straps aren't comfortable for extended hiking. The slightly smaller Lowepro Computrekker Plus AW is better for that, although the padded laptop compartment is rather redundant if you want to be sure it isn't too big for the dimension limits.

 

[Nils Ruinet]

I just bought the Tamrac Cyberpack 8, and it's awesome. Thank you guys (especially Gibby) for the great advice.

I was able to put the camera body, both 18-50 and 50-150 zooms, 2 Red Drives, 2 batteries, the LCD, a few other accessories + my 17" Macbook Pro in there, and to take all this stuff with me as a carry-on luggage on the plane...
As Eric said, it weighted about 20 kg, which is way above the limits of mosts airlines, but I was still able to take it.

 

[ericyoung]

I just bought the Tamrac Cyberpack 8, and it's awesome. Thank you guys (especially Gibby) for the great advice.

I was able to put the camera body, both 18-50 and 50-150 zooms, 2 Red Drives, 2 batteries, the LCD, a few other accessories + my 17" Macbook Pro in there, and to take all this stuff with me as a carry-on luggage on the plane...
As Eric said, it weighted about 20 kg, which is way above the limits of mosts airlines, but I was still able to take it.

The weight's the potential problem - they're entitled to make you check it if it's over that particular airline's weight limit, and although padded, it won't be adequate for protection in checked luggage. It's a big risk if you try to get it on an airline with a weight limit, and chances are insurance will refuse to pay for damage while it's checked if inadequately protected. "Getting away with it" is a lottery.

 

[Jeremy Wiles]

Does anyone know how the CyberPack 8 compares to the Ogio Ty II backpack?

I was just about to buy another Ogio Ty II pack when I read this post. I'm able to get my Red camera, 3 batteries, 2 hard drives, laptop, mattebox and some other stuff inside. I've been taking it as a carry-on for several years on probably several hundred flights.

Is the CyberPack 8 a better option? Decisions... decisions...

 

[Nils Ruinet]

The weight's the potential problem - they're entitled to make you check it if it's over that particular airline's weight limit, and although padded, it won't be adequate for protection in checked luggage. It's a big risk if you try to get it on an airline with a weight limit, and chances are insurance will refuse to pay for damage while it's checked if inadequately protected. "Getting away with it" is a lottery.

Yes, you're right, but what other solution do we have ?
There is absolutely no way that I would let my camera / lenses / drives travel as checked luggage.
For now it has always worked, every time I've had to travel with a camera, I've been able to take it as a carry-on luggage. Sometimes it took some persuasion, but in the end it has always been accepted. All I can do is hope it will stay that way...
What other choices do we have ?

 

[ericyoung]

I've been thinking that if I really have to travel with any airline with a carry-on weight limit I can't meet, I will check an empty foam lined Peli/Stormcase big enough take the whole carry-on in case, and pay the extra bag/excess weight fee. Of course I'll also have to be totally upfront about the carry-on weight at check-in to have the option of repacking the carry-on.

 

[Alexander Alexandrov]

has anyone been through any TSA trouble with HB-207 to date?

 

[Shawn Booth]

What other choices do we have ?

I carry the body and EVF in a carryon Pelican and lenses in another. I either check the rest of my package or ship it. Shipping is cheaper but not by much. To fly from Honolulu to LA with camera costs $1K just for the package... Shipping is about $600 each way...

I also have a full, complete, cine-styled package... It's heavy too... 7 cases...

 

[ryan young]

i've been using the kata BP-502 pack for years now... size isn't an issue except for commuter planes. the pack is big and carries a ton of gear including your laptop. weight is more of the issue - when you are standing at the check in counter, try to act like its really light.

my usual carry on setup is the kata 502 along with a pelican 1510 as my "personal item". we all know what airlines and airports around the world are more particular about weight, so you have to come prepared for a last minute repack.

i also found the NRS harness pack really useful for strapping up a 1510 all the way up to a 1620.

here are a couple pics...

 

[Martin Weiss]

I bought the Airport Addicted v 2.0 a couple of weeks ago, and have been in the mountains and the seaside with it. It is very versatile, both for carrying on your back - with adjustable straps just about everywhere - and very helpful when working out of the trunk of a car. Comes with weather protection, and a very useful 15" laptop case - that can be carried separately.

In my configuration it holds the RED incl. handle, 4-6 stills lenses, 2 large batteries, a Rycote mike, 7" LCD with double padding, cables, 4 CF-cards in extra case, cleaning fluid, 15" MBP with external CF reader, Shoulder Dovetail and the rain cover. All sits securely on the back. - And you can strap on a mono- or tripod.

All feels very secure, great attention to detail has been given. Feels like a bag that will last many years.

Not cheap, but worth every øre.

 

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

I bought the Lowepro Vertex 300A: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/487265-REG/Lowepro_35020_Vertex_300_AW_Backpack.html

Rock solid, notebooks up to 17'', all weather cover and meets current FAA requirements for carry on bags.

Whow, could you imagine piling a RED on top of your 17" MacBookPro?

Jochen