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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Any takers for 2.5K?

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We've been loving our Epic-Ms so far... can't say how much fun it is shooting full frame 96fps (or 120fps with a small vertical crop)

Whilst the 300fps at 2K 2.35.1 is a fantastic achievement, it is far too niche for most of our jobs (and particularly for 3D work)

What would really make a huge difference for us is the fastest frame rate at a resolution that works really well for 1080p. After some testing we feel a 2.5k (16:9 or 2:1) resolution would work. It would be a perfect compromise between frame rate and versatile resolution. It's noticeably sharper than a 2K extraction.(The icing for us would be 3d sync-ability)

Anybody have any thoughts? ;-) I would imagine that it should be possible to reach 200fps??

Jim/Jarred - any plans in the pipeline?
 
Would be interesting to see what kind of max frame rate 2.5K would get - after the de-bayer process it's not too far off 1920x1080 compared to 2K...
 
David Mullen ASC said:
Isn't 2.5K a bit hairsplitty with 3K? 3K RAW also makes a good conversion to 2K RGB...
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Hi David

'3k makes a good conversion'? Absolutely it does... with an 1080 output it can be very difficult to tell the difference between 4k and 3k....

However I'm 100% behind the idea of Red considering offering a 2.5k (or what ever the Red guys deems the perfect number) output for high speed work. 2k @2.35/1 is an exciting teck miracle but for many situations it is a bit niche and tricky to cut it up (and especially after a 16:9 extraction) against 4k or 5k footage.

Now that Epic can effortlessly shoot 120fps at 4k or 5k (in the wider screen ratios) I'm perhaps getting spoilt. I'm looking to have to jump to Phantoms nearly never.

Michael (epic is spoiling me) Lindsay
 
2.5K 16:9 would be 192fps and 2.5K 2.40:1 would be 240fps. We can add this sometime down the road.

Jim
 
David M

Perhaps you are right once we get "3k 2.40 @ 200fps" we can pop in custom frame guides for 2:1 and 16:9...

I believe frame rate upper limits are defined by how much is read out verticlly. Therefore the extra horizontal makes no difference (Graham please correct me if I am wrong here).

Anyway I'm thankful for Redcode with all these overcranking options... 5k @ 120 is tempting and I realy wouldn't want that coming out uncompressed.

regards

Michael
 
Jannard said:
2.5K 16:9 would be 192fps and 2.5K 2.40:1 would be 240fps. We can add this sometime down the road.

Jim
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Thanks for jumping in...

and am I correct in thinking 3k 2.40:1 will be 200fps?

Michael L

PS all these different high speed frame rate options are appreciated and will get used...
 
More options! Yay! :)
 
Jannard said:
2.5K 16:9 would be 192fps and 2.5K 2.40:1 would be 240fps. We can add this sometime down the road.

Jim
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and as usual the camera gets better for the same price....eheheheheh
 
Antonio Forjaz said:
and as usual the camera gets better for the same price....eheheheheh
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We think we should start charging to enable these type of features...

All kidding aside... our customers have put up with cameras that didn't have all features enabled when they purchased them. We are just trying to give you what we promised... and then a few surprises.

Jim
 
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Jannard said:
2.5K 16:9 would be 192fps and 2.5K 2.40:1 would be 240fps. We can add this sometime down the road.

Jim
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The great think about 2.5k 16:9 is that is will cover S16 lenses without any vignetting but with the full FOV that the lenses are able to deliver. We shoot regularly with S16 zooms for documentary work with the RedOne. To accomplish this we set the camera to 3K 2:1 and later crop to 2.5K 16:9 in post. With 2.5K available in camera all the post hassle would be obsolete. Good idea!

Hans
 
Jannard said:
2.5K 16:9 would be 192fps and 2.5K 2.40:1 would be 240fps. We can add this sometime down the road.

Jim
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How freaking awesome is that?

What other company can you just say, "hey this sounds cool can I have it?" and the CEO not only responds but says, "sure, and we'll give it to you for free"?!?


Sorry, I'm relatively new here and I'm still amazed every time I see those names in red pop up and grant wishes and show how different RED is from other companies. RED cameras are little lamps and when owners rub them, RED genies appear.

Campbell, I think you have two wishes left. :thumbup1:
 
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Jim -don't get tired...our Epic-M's are fantastic, but like many we're continuously watching to see how you're going to push the next industry envelope!...and I sincerely hope to see Red Ray Pro in the Red Store soon (I may have already answered my own comment).
 
Jannard said:
We think we should start charging to enable these type of features...

All kidding aside... our customers have put up with cameras that didn't have all features enabled when they purchased them. We are just trying to give you what we promised... and then a few surprises.

Jim
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You are the mf MAN!!! You put up with so much and keep being so damn cool...loyalty comes so easy with the likes of you and the rest of the company!!!
 
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