Announcing WEAPON DRAGON 6k Magnesium

[Matthew J]

The returning the lens mount is a little concerning to me. I would love a magnesium PL mount, but for the money right now I rather keep my TI PL mount and not have to spend an extra $3500 for the MG mount.

 

[Todd Gilpin]

Looks like 8K is CF only.

https://support.red.com/entries/92759057

 

[Peter Majtan]

Jarred did say long before NAB that "this time the CF version will actually do more..."

:sifone: Peter

 

[Mike Nagel]

The returning the lens mount is a little concerning to me. I would love a magnesium PL mount, but for the money right now I rather keep my TI PL mount and not have to spend an extra $3500 for the MG mount.

yeah, I'm not sure about that either... are they keeping the Ti PL mount when u sent the Dragon in ?

I think it was mentioned before that the old mounts work on Weapon, so I would wanna keep my existing mount...

 

[Shane Peel]

I think I will keep my Epic and just save up for a 8k Cf given if it performs like I hope. This rout is less fun but also less of a headache for me.

I hear you, unless there is a pretty big story on the FPS the results my Epic is getting are enough to test my abilities as a film maker anyway and I love all the accessories that I spent a bunch of money on less than 12 months ago and wanna feel I got use out of them before they just ad to the land fill problem the planet has. Looks to me like the 6K weapon is really just a stop gap and a bit of a short cut to vista vis and 8K and my reality is that if I was shooting something that justified 8K vista chances are the cost of picking up the camera would have long become a thing of the past. This new cam looks unreal and will be best in class for sure. Lets hear those FPS numbers JL

 

[Jeremy Torrie]

If we are upgrading the body to Weapon, then why wouldn't we be able to get the 8K sensor as well? I love the idea of 8K but why only for the Carbon Fibre?

 

[Peter Majtan]

If we are upgrading the body to Weapon, then why wouldn't we be able to get the 8K sensor as well? I love the idea of 8K but why only for the Carbon Fibre?

The CF brain in the Weapon line clearly has a more powerful processing unit(s) internally. You can see this from the higher speeds and LUT specs. It seems that this extra grunt will be needed to drive the 8K sensors.
It is early to say - but there might eventually be an upgrade path from MG weapon to CF weapon (8K or not).
Time will tell...

 

[Todd Gilpin]

Carbon Fiber Weapon must have more processing power. It does higher fps on the ProRes and the LUT capabilities are different as well.

 

[Michael Jensen]

Thats a bummer if the magnesium version is not upgradeable to 8k. I'm starting to think I'm waiting wrong line. Hopefully I can move my deposit to the CF version.

 

[shashbugu]

They are the same exact body size, one is CF and the other MG, the internal parts could easily be made the same, absolutely no reason why there couldn't be an 8k upgrade path ------ for MG bodies. Everything is just being announced we will know more in a few weeks. I'm pretty sure a little chip can be installed in existing dragons to record Prores. At least we know the technology is there. Its clear bandwidth is very important for both R3D raw and proves to be recorded simultaneously, but we know it can't be that difficult to press a button to singularly record either codec.

 

[Jack Shanahan]

This is my question too. I have $$$ of Anton Bauer Batteries -- I have no interest in Redvolt XLs. Is there going to be a brain + sidekick + media upgrade? There are also Typos in this OP. It says "Weapon CF" which is confusing as this is the Magnesium body we are taking about no? Also when I look at my upgrade options on red.com it seems to think I am upgrading to the Dragon Sensor -- which I already have.

So the $34,500 price point is for the Weapon package correct? That means it also includes:1 WEAPON Sidekick (Magnesium)1 WEAPON Base Expander1 WEAPON REDVOLT XL Module1 WEAPON Top Handle1 WEAPON Lemo Adaptor A1 WEAPON Package Case1 1-Year Standard WarrantyThere is no such option as JUST the Brain + Integrated Media Bay.I'm just making sure I get it and it's not my late night brain playing tricks with me.

 

[Christoffer Glans]

So the $34,500 price point is for the Weapon package correct? That means it also includes:
1 WEAPON Sidekick (Magnesium)
1 WEAPON Base Expander
1 WEAPON REDVOLT XL Module
1 WEAPON Top Handle
1 WEAPON Lemo Adaptor A
1 WEAPON Package Case
1 1-Year Standard Warranty

There is no such option as JUST the Brain + Integrated Media Bay.

I'm just making sure I get it and it's not my late night brain playing tricks with me.

I don't need the redvolt XL or the top handle, I want to use v-lock batteries and the sliding top handle (because of it's fast detach/attach).
Would be nice if the sum of those went into the camera body upgrade price.

 

[Curran Giddens]

There is no such option as JUST the Brain + Integrated Media Bay.

I'm just making sure I get it and it's not my late night brain playing tricks with me.

I'm looking for this option as well. I don't see it.
I don't think I can spend $17k right now to upgrade my Epic-M Dragon. But, $12K for Brain + media bay, along with $5k accessories credit is a possibility, if it were offered.

 

[Patrick Grossien]

This is awesome and all... but... I still wish the 6K FF35 Scarlet would be on the horizon somewhere.
I'd grab the CF VV Weapon in a heartbeat if I had the dough. It's a sick camera and a perfect dream

I still wish I could have a camera which would give me FF35 (36x24mm) stills and motion.
I know it will never be below $10K as was the plan years ago, but maybe a bit closer to it than $60K or $70K would be nice.

 

[Andy Roberts]

Should the original post say: If you already own EPIC-X DRAGON, your trade-in credit towards WEAPON is $15,500 instead of "WEAPON CF" ?
Meaning, this thread is about the NON-CF version, correct? Maybe just a copy/paste issue from the CF thread?

 

[Kemalettin Sert]

This is my question too. I have $$$ of Anton Bauer Batteries -- I have no interest in Redvolt XLs. Is there going to be a brain + sidekick + media upgrade? There are also Typos in this OP. It says "Weapon CF" which is confusing as this is the Magnesium body we are taking about no? Also when I look at my upgrade options on red.com it seems to think I am upgrading to the Dragon Sensor -- which I already have.

its same thing.Says your camera worth 15.500$ even if you want magnesium or CF Weapon.

 

[Maik Müller]

This is awesome and all... but... I still wish the 6K FF35 Scarlet would be on the horizon somewhere.
I'd grab the CF VV Weapon in a heartbeat if I had the dough. It's a sick camera and a perfect dream

I still wish I could have a camera which would give me FF35 (36x24mm) stills and motion.
I know it will never be below $10K as was the plan years ago, but maybe a bit closer to it than $60K or $70K would be nice.

I'm with you Patrick.
Weapon is a dream and 8k Weapon is sick - i would order instantly if i had the cash.
I wish a Scarlet Weapon is coming too...

On the other hand, that new Scarlet-D to Epic-D upgrade-path is tempting.

 

[Jan Reiff]

just pressed the button ...
i am joining the club ...

 

[Brian Boyer]

I can't recall how it has worked in the past but will I be able to apply the $5,000 Weapon upgrade credit + $5,000 accessory credit to Battle Tested Weapons, if they should become available?

 

[Maik Müller]

I can't recall how it has worked in the past but will I be able to apply the $5,000 Weapon upgrade credit + $5,000 accessory credit to Battle Tested Weapons, if they should become available?

Hehe, one can only dream.