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AllSteady 7 --- Three Axis Gimbal for only 3k

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We took the concept of the MoVI, improved upon it, and we are selling it for around 3k

New upgrade to extra large frame and 18 pound payload now available at www.Kickstarter.com

The AllSteady 7 can carry a fully geared DSLR, Red Epic and Blackmagic 4K. It can even be upgraded from 12 pounds to 18 pounds payload for a fully loaded Red Epic/Dragon, Canon C300/C500, Sony F55, FS700, Blackmagic 4K production and most cameras weight under 18 pounds.

Link to KickStarter:
http://kck.st/1ellyMd


Here is a video that shows some of the capabilities of the gimbal.

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AllSteady-7 Brushless 3-Axis GIMBAL
for 5D/Red Epic/4K Blackmagic Production


For those of you waiting for the ultimate hand held 3-axis gimbal, the AllSteady-7 from Turbo Ace is a game changer that delivers twice the power and payload of conventional gimbals. Combining exceptional structure, powerful motors and cutting edge technology, the AllSteady-7 can easily handle much higher payloads from larger DSLR cameras with telephoto and Cine lenses to Red Epic with accessories. By integrating proprietary clamps, brackets and motor mounts, we have eliminated all slippage and slop common in all traditional gimbal designs. For versatile applications and a seamless end user experience, the gimbal is also packed with extraordinary functions and ergonomic features.


After over 4,000 hours of development in 8 months, the AllSteady-7 will officially go into mass production in April to streamline cost and quality control. With a long and successful track record of turning out professional gimbals including the AllSteady-1 in 2013, Turbo Ace in Southern California is also a well-respected developer of multicopters for aerial videography. You will have a rare opportunity to preorder the AllSteady-7 at www.kickstarter.com for a substantial discount in about a week. For additional information, you can also go to [www.turboace.com](http://www.turboace.com) or follow us on [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/turboacewow?ref=hl).


Some Key AllSteady-7 Features


- 12 lb Payload Capacity for versatile camera and lens combinations

- Supports Canon 5D, Nikon D800, Red Epic, 4K BlackMagic Production & etc.

- Extra Robust Brushless Motors with Support Bearings

- Pan-Axis Motor Cage (not shown in picture)

- Proprietary Cross Lock Motor Mount

- Proprietary Zero Slop Bearing Lock

- Proprietary Internal Locking Clamps

- Adjustable Top and Side Rubberized Ergonomic Handles

- Gimbal Foldable to Flat Form for ease of transport and storage

- Tuning Stand Foldable to Flat Form for ease of transport and storage

- Single-lever Tool-less Balance Adjustments

- 30mm Carbon Tube instead of standard 25mm

- Outdoor LED Indicator with Auto Low Voltage Shut-off

- KickStarter Preorder Price: $2,595 - $3,895

- KickStarter Preorder Date: Estimated March 10, 2014

- Launch Date: April, 2014
 
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You have my attention . . . but so do a couple of other products.:-) Right off hand, one thing that concerns me on your unit is the size of the camera tray. There appears no way that an Epic with a side handle attached will go in. And 12 lbs is really forcing you to strip the camera to almost nothing whereas a couple of alternatives I'm considering are rated for the 13.6 to 14 pound range.

On the other hand, I love that you are touting the ability to go from handheld to supported on a steadicam type vest to a crane quickly and toolessly, and I love the easy fold up for packing. I would be very interested in more information (a video would obviously be best) demonstrating the changeover from, say, steadicam vest to crane/jib and some precise info on the interface hardware for each. I own a Kessler modular crane (it has double arms about a foot apart with a camera tray in between) and would want to know how this gimbal could be mounted. I also have a cheap knockoff vest and arm from a poor man's steadicam that I bought YEARS ago, way before I owned an Epic, and never used. But I held onto it, and the arm, while not adequate for getting smooth performance with a conventional sled, is plenty robust enough to simply redistribute the payload of a gimbal and stripped Epic across the back and hips to help with ergonomics and fatigue. So I'm thinking I might finally be able to re-purpose that gear and save money on a higher quality arm/vest, but I won't know until I have more info on the specs or brands of vests/arms your product is meant to interface with.

Lastly, will one of your prototypes be viewable up close to anyone attending NAB?

Thanks for any info, and good luck with the venture.:-)

ETA: Okay, I saw after writing this post that you are offering a kickstarter level that includes a modified tray wide enough to hold an Epic w/ Side handle attached. That's great. Pics would be even better.:-)
 
Haha yep and 4K cameras galore

this sounds interesting. If Carey hadn't put together the best group buy ever for the BS4 I probably would of had interest in this one. Best of luck!

Carey Lee Coffey said:
2014... year of the gimbal wars.

Looks like this one will be a ways off before it's in the end user's hands.
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We are finishing up a few mounting options for the Raptor, Easyrig etc. More pictures will be posted at www.TurboAce.com and yes, the AllSteady line will be exhibited at the NAB in April. Thanks for your input and we certainly will take them into consideration in our designs. The AllSteady 7 uses a 12mm/ 15mm motor shaft and they are cross locked to eliminate bouncing. There is a 25mm x37mm support bearing for the pan. You will understand why this is very important after you have been running and shooting with a gimbal. There are 3 models to choose from and you are welcome to try them out at NAB. You will be very surprised how sturdy they are after you have carefully compared them with other gimbals in the market. To get priority shipment, you can preorder any one of the 3 models in Kickstarter.com

The 3 models are
1. Standard basic Red Epic/DSLR 5D fully geared
2. Red Epic with side handle, Blackmagic production camera
3. Canon C300/C500, Sony SF700/Z100 or fully loaded Red
 
Don't just look at the price. A closer look would reveal the new evolutional designs that no other gimbals have. Since last NAB, we have studied gimbals on how to make them achieve the highest level of performance for cinema. We have also carefully solved many of the problems associated with this newly born device. Those of you who already own a gimbal know best and have the experience to know what to look for.

We think the most important things to look for in purchasing a gimbal are

1. Support bearings, yes they are absolutely required, without them the gimbal will jitter especially when you run or move really fast.
2. Ease of balancing. Gimbals are no magic lanterns! The 3-axis auto leveling looks fascinating but do you know every time you change lens, camera or simply move the outer zoom ring will throw its balance off. The AllSteady offers the fastest tool-less single lever adjustment that trumped all the competitions' multiple levers adjustment or designs with locks that require tools.
3. Aesthetic. There are only a few gimbals out there that look stream lined. Most are build with tubes clamped together with eye sore elbows. The AllSteady is designed by a team of product designers from the Art Center College of Design which each year is behind the BMW new models.
4. Reliability. Electronics are protected inside an aluminum housing and wires carefully routed on all the AllSteady models.
5. Features. Most gimbals are all automatic with no manual control. AllSteady gimbals have manual override and they are user friendly. They even come with a battery indicator that displays brightly under the sun. That is the extend the AllSteady team goes, to put our feet in the your shoes.
6. Performance. How well does it balance the shot and does the footage contain jello? Any slop in the gimbal will transfer the micro jitter to the final production. AllSteady has the least amount of slop on all 3 axis and produces the best final result.

As a Red user you demand the best and in my opinion the AllSteady is one of the best design gimbals in the market today.
 
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Carey Lee Coffey said:
2014... year of the gimbal wars.

Looks like this one will be a ways off before it's in the end user's hands.
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We are shipping 3 models next month and pre-orders are being taken at KickStarter.com now. Go to TurboAce.com website and take a look. We have a 32,000 sq ft facility in the heart of Orange County and a full staff of technicians to service our customers. Our product lines consist of gimbals and multi-rotors, just release 2 new models of octocopters after we discontinued the X88. We would not have been here today without winning the hearts of our customers and we do this by providing the best value and customer service possible. I am impressed with the Red users in this thread. They are professionals and their opinions are valued and that is exactly how we are going to improve our products, with their help. I am having fun in this field and I don't see wars, only friends. Where are you located in LA? You should come and visit have lunch. We are only ten minutes from Dineyland.
 
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Adam Johnson said:
Haha yep and 4K cameras galore

this sounds interesting. If Carey hadn't put together the best group buy ever for the BS4 I probably would of had interest in this one. Best of luck!
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May be he will put together a group buy for AllSteady 7 for those who missed out on the last buy.
 
I like a lot of things about what you are doing: solving unaddressed issues that some current gimbals have. I like that you are located in the O.C. I think your gimbal is nice looking compared to many other gimbals out there, but the latest BS4 is the best looking gimbal I've ever seen.

I like your price point. I like your confidence. You guys will succeed, I have no doubt. I will definitely be at NAB this year to meet you guys and give it a try. I don't have time to oversee a group buy right now, but perhaps someone else would be willing. Plus, my heart already belongs to BeSteady :)

I wish you guys nothing but success!
 
Thanks for the additional info, Ed. It's very helpful.

To cross-reference what I see on the kickstarter site with what you've written in this thread, it appears that the three substantive model options of most interest to REDUsers are as follows:

1. Standard basic Red Epic/DSLR 5D fully geared (on Kickstarter, called ALLSTEADY-7 ELITE):

Ultra Fast 32bit Processor
Plug&Play Gimbal Fully Assembled
Stick Control Module
Monitor Mounting Bracket
Folding Tuning Stand
Battery Status LED
Battery + Spare Battery
Charger
12 lb. payload capacity


2. Red Epic with side handle, Blackmagic production camera (on Kickstarter, called ALLSTEADY-7 CINEMA):

Ultra Fast 32BIT Processor
Plug&Play Gimbal Fully Assembled
Extra Wide Camera Tray (for use with Blackmagic Production 4K & Red Epic with Side Handle)
Stick Control Module
Monitor Mounting Bracket
Folding Tuning Stand
Battery Status LED
Battery + Spare Battery
Charger
12 lb. payload capacity

3. Canon C300/C500, Sony SF700/Z100 or fully loaded Red (on Kickstarter, called ALLSTEADY-7 ULTIMATE):

Ultra Fast 32BIT Processor
Plug&Play Gimbal Fully Assembled
Extra Wide Camera Tray (for use with Blackmagic Production 4K & Red Epic with Side Handle)
Extended Camera Tray Arms
Upgraded Super Capacity Roll & Tilt Axis Motors (for fully geared Red Epic/Dragon, Blackmagic Production, Sony SF700/Z100 & Canon C300/C500)
Stick Control Module
Monitor Mounting Bracket
Folding Tuning Stand
Battery Status LED
Battery + Spare Battery
Charger
?? lb. payload capacity

I left the payload capacity on option 3 a question mark because it seemed like the modifications on that option imply a slightly higher payload capacity. I am very interested to hear more about the performance differences you experienced in field testing with a camera payload in the 12-13 pound range on models without the beefed up roll and tilt motors and elongated tray arms (option 3) versus the model with (presumably) the standard length tray arms but wider tray (option 2).

Thanks in advance.:-)

Elizabeth


Ed Lin said:
We are finishing up a few mounting options for the Raptor, Easyrig etc. More pictures will be posted at www.TurboAce.com and yes, the AllSteady line will be exhibited at the NAB in April. Thanks for your input and we certainly will take them into consideration in our designs. The AllSteady 7 uses a 12mm/ 15mm motor shaft and they are cross locked to eliminate bouncing. There is a 25mm x37mm support bearing for the pan. You will understand why this is very important after you have been running and shooting
with a gimbal. There are 3 models to choose from and you are welcome to try them out at NAB. You will be very surprised how sturdy they are after you have carefully compared them with other gimbals in the market. To get priority shipment, you can preorder any one of the 3 models in Kickstarter.com

The 3 models are
1. Standard basic Red Epic/DSLR 5D fully geared
2. Red Epic with side handle, Blackmagic production camera
3. Canon C300/C500, Sony SF700/Z100 or fully loaded Red
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Just to add some data. I weighed my Dragon with Canon 70-200mm, 5" touch LCD (+cable), Side Handle, XL Module, and one XL battery at 12.0 lbs. The xl is a nice counterbalance for the 70-200mm. You are below 11 lbs if you move the LCD to the arm of the stabilizer.

One thing that has bothered me about some of the stabilizers that I have seen is the wiring and connectors. They seem so fragile.

How much room behind the back of the EPIC and the stabilizer? Trying to understand if the XL module and an XL battery would fit.

In my scenario, if I can power off the XL battery/module, then I would remove the side handle. Otherwise I would power from the side handle.
 
People should be looking at how easy is the gimbal to balance.
If the design isn't right you'll have additional axis to deal with which becomes a nightmare and very hard and long to balance.

People who haven't balanced a gimbal before will only learn this by doing it.
And when you change a lens, add a filter, remove or add anything to the camera the balance needs to be re-calibrated… this is before you have even turn the gimbal on.
 
What is your booth number for NAB? I'd love to see one before we purchase...
 
We don't have the Suumilux at our disposal but I do know the AllSteady 8, our newest version which may be in a reduser group buy program will carry the Red with Canon 70-200 F2.8 which is pretty long and heavy. It can carry the Sony SF700 so the arms are extra long to balance long heavy lens.

Ed

KETCH ROSSi said:
Yeah, some of us have learned long ago that Price is not always the defacto point... ;)

On your Prototype, have you tried mounting a longer lens on the Epic?

Such a Summilux C Prime, or a Schneider Xenon?




If interested, we are looking for a NON "Movi" Gimbal (since can't balance longer lenses at this payload with on board power) to showcase in our shoot here in Venice Italy were the action on and off stair cases on the Bridges all over the city and a chase scene up and down a series of narrow stair cases in an ancient Hotel, could be perfect storm of scenarios for it.

So, just putting it out there, in case you have a Proto available and are interested in this, IMO could be, a perfect platform Short Film to showcase your Gimbal.
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You have excellent observations and are quite knowledgeable on the gimbals. Depending on how fast you move the gimbal, the AllSteady can easily handle payload over its spec, we call that burst payload which is about 18 pounds. The tilt motor on the Ultimate is rated at 12 pounds, same as the pan motor, why? We know the Ultimate needs to handle longer camera, Red with long lens, the extra long Sony SF700 and C500, which all require more power on the tilt axis due to longer leverage. Another advantage of the AllSteady is that most gimbals are running on 8 bit whereas the AllSteady is running on 32 bits. Its processor is not only faster but can also handle more data. For example, the AllSteady controller can handle 2 or more 3-axis sensors to cross check data for that perfect balance and stabilization.

Ed
TurboAce.com

Elizabeth Lowrey said:
Thanks for the additional info, Ed. It's very helpful.

To cross-reference what I see on the kickstarter site with what you've written in this thread, it appears that the three substantive model options of most interest to REDUsers are as follows:

1. Standard basic Red Epic/DSLR 5D fully geared (on Kickstarter, called ALLSTEADY-7 ELITE):

Ultra Fast 32bit Processor
Plug&Play Gimbal Fully Assembled
Stick Control Module
Monitor Mounting Bracket
Folding Tuning Stand
Battery Status LED
Battery + Spare Battery
Charger
12 lb. payload capacity


2. Red Epic with side handle, Blackmagic production camera (on Kickstarter, called ALLSTEADY-7 CINEMA):

Ultra Fast 32BIT Processor
Plug&Play Gimbal Fully Assembled
Extra Wide Camera Tray (for use with Blackmagic Production 4K & Red Epic with Side Handle)
Stick Control Module
Monitor Mounting Bracket
Folding Tuning Stand
Battery Status LED
Battery + Spare Battery
Charger
12 lb. payload capacity

3. Canon C300/C500, Sony SF700/Z100 or fully loaded Red (on Kickstarter, called ALLSTEADY-7 ULTIMATE):

Ultra Fast 32BIT Processor
Plug&Play Gimbal Fully Assembled
Extra Wide Camera Tray (for use with Blackmagic Production 4K & Red Epic with Side Handle)
Extended Camera Tray Arms
Upgraded Super Capacity Roll & Tilt Axis Motors (for fully geared Red Epic/Dragon, Blackmagic Production, Sony SF700/Z100 & Canon C300/C500)
Stick Control Module
Monitor Mounting Bracket
Folding Tuning Stand
Battery Status LED
Battery + Spare Battery
Charger
?? lb. payload capacity

I left the payload capacity on option 3 a question mark because it seemed like the modifications on that option imply a slightly higher payload capacity. I am very interested to hear more about the performance differences you experienced in field testing with a camera payload in the 12-13 pound range on models without the beefed up roll and tilt motors and elongated tray arms (option 3) versus the model with (presumably) the standard length tray arms but wider tray (option 2).

Thanks in advance.:-)

Elizabeth
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Well put and great education for those who are not familiar with gimbals. Can't blame them, people watch so many Youtube videos, watching gimbals working its magic but what is really behind the scene? Sweat and hair pulling, most gimbals requires 10 to 20 minutes to balance each time you change something or even when you just mount the camera on. The truth is the gimbal needs to be carefully designed to be practical, otherwise it will just get in your way. This is the reason why we took the leap to design a single lever knob that only takes seconds to adjust.

Ed
TurboAce.com

roryhinds said:
People should be looking at how easy is the gimbal to balance.
If the design isn't right you'll have additional axis to deal with which becomes a nightmare and very hard and long to balance.

People who haven't balanced a gimbal before will only learn this by doing it.
And when you change a lens, add a filter, remove or add anything to the camera the balance needs to be re-calibrated… this is before you have even turn the gimbal on.
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The AllSteady 8 resolves all the issues you have, longer lens, longer battery... etc. AllSteady cables and connectors are carefully routed and mostly hidden for protection. For example, the AllSteady has an enclosed sensor tray. Not to mention, the tray can also be micro adjusted for level. There are just so many design improvements make over what is out there. About 90% of the gimbals in the market today, the sensor and its connector are exposed, so you hit the nail on the head, reliability is key!

Ed
TurboAce.com

Stacey Spears said:
Just to add some data. I weighed my Dragon with Canon 70-200mm, 5" touch LCD (+cable), Side Handle, XL Module, and one XL battery at 12.0 lbs. The xl is a nice counterbalance for the 70-200mm. You are below 11 lbs if you move the LCD to the arm of the stabilizer.

One thing that has bothered me about some of the stabilizers that I have seen is the wiring and connectors. They seem so fragile.

How much room behind the back of the EPIC and the stabilizer? Trying to understand if the XL module and an XL battery would fit.

In my scenario, if I can power off the XL battery/module, then I would remove the side handle. Otherwise I would power from the side handle.
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