Allstar A-mount system is available! --with REDONE approved!

[Mark Pugh]

You'll be doing very well soon.

GET THAT NIKON-G ADPTERS AND EPIC MOUNTS OUT THE DOOR!!!!!!

 

[Kaku Ito]

If I were just interested in Nikon mount, other brand looks better, but your A-mout concept help production to provide easy switch over among different mounts, so please do the best for making better G-adaptor!! Looking forward to it.

 

[Michael Panfeld]

A-Star, is the universal mount the one that you currently sell for the RED One? If so, does that mean that I can buy the system now and, when the EPIC mount base becomes available, just buy that part in order to use on the EPIC? Thanks

 

[ALLSTAR]

There are more photos:

Allstar universal mount(item code: AM-un) can`t work on RED ONE, but Allstar mount for RED(item code: AM-r) could be mounted on all type of mount base by an adapter ring. The thickness of AM-un is much thicker than AM-r, also Allstar universal mount and mount base are made of thick stainless, not like most of F3 adapters in the market are made of aluminum.

About Epic mount base, there is no EPIC in my country yet, and I don't know when my EPIC will be available. I`ve tried to ask RED team but unfortunately, they can`t give me the dimension about it. So, I would like to ask you for a favor , is it possible to send me an EPIC PL mount Module? I will need 3-4 day to test and measure, and 4-6 day for shipping back. Then you will get a free A-mount for EPIC.

 

[Erich Roland]

OMG.... thanks you Allstar for getting this F3 mount done quickly. These cameras have become popular suddenly with very few lens mount options available for some reason.

Just saw his post this morning and sent my order in.

If you have not yet seen Allstars products yet, you will be very happy, works like a champ... and built like a tank, and VERY reasonably priced.

 

[Jacek Zakowicz]

This is a bit confusing for me. F3 already has a quick change mount system. Why do you need another quick change mount on top of the original quick change mount?
RedOne is a different story- it doesn't have a quick change mount system so Allstar makes sense for RedOne.

 

[Erich Roland]

This is a bit confusing for me. F3 already has a quick change mount system. Why do you need another quick change mount on top of the original quick change mount?
RedOne is a different story- it doesn't have a quick change mount system so Allstar makes sense for RedOne.

I can answer this one for our situation anyway.

First, the F3 mount adapters for anything but PL (which comes with camera), are few and far between. I have had this camera for 2 months and CANNOT get a nikon adapter. Im sure many different lens adapters will eventually be produced but right now only a Nikon from MTF is being made and they are in very short supply for some reason.

More importantly.... just about all Nikon adapters I have ever used... suck! Its because the Nikon mount system was never designed for cinema usage and they all wobble etc. The A-mount system turns the mount into a solid and secure PL style QR system that works like a champ!

Once you go A-star and have the lens adapters (we have on the Red-one), its a no-brainer to continue and put the adapter system on the next camera body and have the same capability. We use the old style Nikons, the new Ziess ZF's and the Lieca R lenses with Red-one and now (hopefully soon) for the F3.

Maybe Allstar will make a Canon eos mount with an aperature built in... please?

 

[Jacek Zakowicz]

Erich,
I guarantee there will be many adapters for this camera very soon. From engineering stand point this is redundant and completely unnecessary- that's all.
That's not to take away from the original (Allstar) idea for RedOne- I thought that was the right way to do it (for RedOne).
For end users that change mounts on location frequently that is....
Yes it makes a little more sense if you already have the system- but what if both your cameras will rent at the same time?
BTW let me know if you want to sell the original (F3) PL adapter- I could definitely use it....
And Allstar- to be clear- I think you did great job on the RedOne system. But not every system is suitable for every camera.
IMO A- mount is not suitable for F3. It does not make it any worse- just unsuitable for this camera.
With all due respect......

 

[ALLSTAR]

This is a bit confusing for me. F3 already has a quick change mount system. Why do you need another quick change mount on top of the original quick change mount?
RedOne is a different story- it doesn't have a quick change mount system so Allstar makes sense for RedOne.

hi, thanks for your notice on my product. But you didn't get the point. Allstar A-Mount system is not only a quick-change mount.
I don't have extra original F3 PL adapter to sale, but I can sell you A-mount.
Cheers

 

[ALLSTAR]

I can answer this one for our situation anyway.

More importantly.... just about all Nikon adapters I have ever used... suck! Its because the Nikon mount system was never designed for cinema usage and they all wobble etc. The A-mount system turns the mount into a solid and secure PL style QR system that works like a champ!

Once you go A-star and have the lens adapters (we have on the Red-one), its a no-brainer to continue and put the adapter system on the next camera body and have the same capability. We use the old style Nikons, the new Ziess ZF's and the Lieca R lenses with Red-one and now (hopefully soon) for the F3.

Maybe Allstar will make a Canon eos mount with an aperature built in... please?

hi Erich, You got the point! The mount of the still camera lenses is really not appropriate for cine camera. Besides the shortcoming of design, the material is very soft, including original Nikon and Canon lenses. It will wear under normally use, just like the F mount in this photo.

Tighter and frequency lock and release will accelerate wear. A-mount's design avoid to use the original mount of the camera, so you have to put each adapter on each camera. it is a stupid design, but it works. And because of these adapters, it can protect your back lenses, and it let different cameras have same back focus length, same mount and same rear cap. It can also let your lenses and mount attached firmly and without play. You can also change the direction of the lenses, like use PL mount lenses. This design is from a cinematographer's viewpoint, not from an engineer.
I am not sure if I will make EF adapter. I am afraid that people will put cheap lens adapters on Allstar EF adapter. Because none of those cheap adapters are made of stainless steel, they will bring play and wrong back focus length. Then it will lost the meaning using A-mount.

 

[Kwan Khan]

Great

 

[Kaku Ito]

Any photo for the new G-adaptor design? I'll take three of those.

 

[Dan Kanes]

BTW let me know if you want to sell the original (F3) PL adapter- I could definitely use it....

Do you think he's stupid enough to sell to a competitor?

Tom is not a Dummy.

 

[Zakaree Sandberg]

Erich,
But not every system is suitable for every camera.
IMO A- mount is not suitable for F3. It does not make it any worse- just unsuitable for this camera.
With all due respect......

the way the nikon lenses turn into PL style mounts makes it worth it.. you can use your nikons with this awesome mount and quickly cross between using a f3 or a red one.. without having too disassemble the actual lens mount and putting on a new lens mount.. letting the cameras and the lenses stay the same. its brilliant

 

[Erich Roland]

Erich,
I guarantee there will be many adapters for this camera very soon. From engineering stand point this is redundant and completely unnecessary- that's all.
That's not to take away from the original (Allstar) idea for RedOne- I thought that was the right way to do it (for RedOne).
For end users that change mounts on location frequently that is....
Yes it makes a little more sense if you already have the system- but what if both your cameras will rent at the same time?
BTW let me know if you want to sell the original (F3) PL adapter- I could definitely use it....
And Allstar- to be clear- I think you did great job on the RedOne system. But not every system is suitable for every camera.
IMO A- mount is not suitable for F3. It does not make it any worse- just unsuitable for this camera.
With all due respect......

Jacek, The A-star system works great for Red one and will work equally well for F3 for the same reasons. "Redundant and completely unneccessary" suggest that other options for using still lenses on F3 work as well (or better) and at the same or lessor costs.... and that is just not the reality presently. We will see I suppose when other products show up.

The A-star mount is beautifully designed, built like a tank and turns still lenses which are practically un-usable in they're native mounts into a solid "PL style" system and takes this inherent problem (wobbly mounts) off the table... all at a reasonable costs.

cheers, Erich

 

[Kaku Ito]

Built like a tank and lens gets mounted very solid.

 

[Kaku Ito]

Think of something like this. This happened to me few times. The DP told me he is fine with one RED ONE MX being PL-mount and the other RED ONE MX being Nikon mount to reduce the cost of lenses. So I showed up to the studio like that. It was fine until the DP started saying "let's put the PL lens to the other one". I had to say, "I told you the Nikon mount RED ONE can't have the PL mount lens quickly". But he kept on forgetting. I ordered the A-mount the following week with PL-adaptor and Nikon F-mount adaptors. Now I can tell the DP, "okay, no problem, you can swap the lenses".

But Jacek, I admire your G-mount iris control.

 

[Jacek Zakowicz]

Ok I'm going to try again- common sense this time - maybe this will work.
Two systems:
1. Camera body->lens adapter-> lens
2. Camera body->neutral mount->a-mount adapter->lens adapter->lens
Which one do you think will have more precision- centering, tilt, flange distance, etc.
Mounting a lens on camera requires certain amount of precision. After a number of components you simply lose control over it(precision) and you are counting on luck.
I personally am not interested in luck when it comes to precision.
Others maybe OK with it.
As long as they understand it.......
again- I like the system- I think it's great for some applications- just not for this one....
Absolutely nothing personal I have more experience with this than most here and am trying to share the technical resource.....
As always- with all due respect......

 

[Omkar Gauchan]

Ok I'm going to try again- common sense this time - maybe this will work.
Two systems:
1. Camera body->lens adapter-> lens
2. Camera body->neutral mount->a-mount adapter->lens adapter->lens
Which one do you think will have more precision- centering, tilt, flange distance, etc.
Mounting a lens on camera requires certain amount of precision. After a number of components you simply lose control over it(precision) and you are counting on luck.
I personally am not interested in luck when it comes to precision.
Others maybe OK with it.
As long as they understand it.......
again- I like the system- I think it's great for some applications- just not for this one....
Absolutely nothing personal I have more experience with this than most here and am trying to share the technical resource.....
As always- with all due respect......

With all due respect, i am not seeing any problem here. Seems You are trying to make a big fuss about it. This is as simple as lens adapter->Lens, i know you had the same opinion when the first A-mount came. Chiil out Jacek

 

[Jacek Zakowicz]

I'm sorry I upset you Omkar.