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[luigivaltulini]

Today I was from a friend ... in these days of celebration
For Christmas, he bought a new 12-core MacPro .. spent nearly $ 10,000 !!!!
What the fuck ... have much money, I played with Resolve ... I can not even go to play with R3D Raw file 5k full Debayer. I must go down to 1/4. sometimes by impression that works in half but then using some node everything falls ..... works discreetly in ProRes but to be honest it is much better the old MacPro with 2 titan.

So I got home, shaking his head ... I looked at my supermicro and ...
but by why not try, although I've always said to have stopped making hackintosh ... but a little challenge sometimes is good


the new MacPro manages to score almost 32000 in Geekbench 64bit ...
Here's what I managed to do in 1 hour on the first screen 48000, after a few hours (kext and and and) I touched 50000

It would be interesting to see how many of you are interested in this Hackintosh ..

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[Steve Sherrick]

I'm interested.

 

[Alan Gordon]

I'm hoping someone will hack the supermicro for the new Haswell E Xeons... My 2x Sandy Bridge Xeon Hack is running nicely but, I'm always looking for an edge in speed

 

[luigivaltulini]

I'm hoping someone will hack the supermicro for the new Haswell E Xeons... My 2x Sandy Bridge Xeon Hack is running nicely but, I'm always looking for an edge in speed

hehe sure Alan, as all of us hehe
.the problem is not the processor but the limitation in the kernel in the recognition of the core. For now we are stuck at 32 .... I think a double Haswell CPU 14 is the limit ... obvious without using HT.

 

[Dominik Muench]

WANT !!!!!!

whats the GPU on your little micro ?

 

[Donald MJ Anderson]

Are you thinking of selling the hardware or sharing the plans? I could only imagine how troublesome hardware failures would be for customer returns to Switzerland .

 

[luigivaltulini]

Are you thinking of selling the hardware or sharing the plans? I could only imagine how troublesome hardware failures would be for customer returns to Switzerland .

I do not sell anything ....
If I decide to do this, everything will be free, as I have always done with HPz800 and HPz820.
Everyone is free of buying the materials where it wants.

The most important thing is the decision of the components must be equal for all, we must make a decision together. When everything is decided I try to run this hack.

So for now I throw an idea of components, feel free to give a different idea:

1: SuperServer 7047GR-TPRF chassis
2: X9DRG-QF mainboard
3: USB 3 compatible card...( i think usb allegro 4 port sonnet)
4: 2 Pz. cpu Xeon 2696v2 or 2697v2 12 core
5: Ddr3ecc 32 or 64 gb ( depend of your choice)
6: 2 Pz Titan Nvidia Card 6 gb
7 : dual port or single port 10gbe ethernet ( Sonnet)
8 : Areca Raid card 1883 12gb/s
9: Blackmagic 4k

 

[noah newtown]

Great idea Can this setup handle 6k raw with Noise reduction etc. in realtime??

 

[D Fuller]

You've got me interested.

 

[Alan Gordon]

hehe sure Alan, as all of us hehe
.the problem is not the processor but the limitation in the kernel in the recognition of the core. For now we are stuck at 32 .... I think a double Haswell CPU 14 is the limit ... obvious without using HT.

I don't need more than the dual 8 or cpus. Most apps don't use many more cores than that... But I'd be potentially interested in hacking that supermicro board (as opposed to my asus z9pe-d8 ws which is hacked and working well) for the double width pci-e slots.

Performance wise, right now I think the biggest thing I'm lacking is still GPU. My dual titan blacks are AMAZING at 2k, but with more and more jobs requesting 4k (often unnecessarily) the Titans often flub out with noise reduction at 4k. Out of VRAM errors mostly. I'm really hopping for a 10-12GB Titan 2 to come out soon. Otherwise I may start looking at AMD or workstation cards just for the extra RAM.

 

[luigivaltulini]

I don't need more than the dual 8 or cpus. Most apps don't use many more cores than that... But I'd be potentially interested in hacking that supermicro board (as opposed to my asus z9pe-d8 ws which is hacked and working well) for the double width pci-e slots.

Performance wise, right now I think the biggest thing I'm lacking is still GPU. My dual titan blacks are AMAZING at 2k, but with more and more jobs requesting 4k (often unnecessarily) the Titans often flub out with noise reduction at 4k. Out of VRAM errors mostly. I'm really hopping for a 10-12GB Titan 2 to come out soon. Otherwise I may start looking at AMD or workstation cards just for the extra RAM.

this workstation in Windows can run in real 6k with raw NR (davinci NR) without problems and without Redrocket-x, I have two cards ati 7990 4 (GPU), run faster in OpenCL, of Nvidia.
With the dual 8 core, could not even get d 1/4 debayer.
I always speak Davinci, for the rest of Adobe premiere eccecc .. double Xeon go slower ... but the difference is minimal.
Find a good compromise with this PC, maybe a dual boot Win / OSX would be a good thing.

 

[noah newtown]

Do you use win7 or 8 is a internal raid5 (8x4tb) in the supermicro
solid like a Pegasus r8 ??

 

[Cameron K]

This would mean no thunderbolt2 then, right Luigi? I had abandoned the idea of a Z820 hackintosh since you were getting such superior results with davinci windows. That, plus fusion 7 is a big draw for me to move to the windows platform. Compiling parts for an Asus X99 WS & 5960x system right now, but everyone I know uses prores and the Mirarizon solution takes some technical criticism in the blogs. This dual boot super micro sounds mighty attractive now. Yes, interested.

 

[luigivaltulini]

the v1 had problems on blacks, while this new version of v2 for now and very good, I do not see any difference from the original ProRes, and also the 444xq for me to be very important.
However, I abandoned the 820 because in it you can not put video cards that require a lot of power supply.
This supermicro and everything inside there is nothing around and be very clean, I like that.
Now I'm undecided whether to buy the titan 6gb .o ati 290x 8gb

 

[Cameron K]

Now I'm undecided whether to buy the titan 6gb .o ati 290x 8gb

Thanks for the v2 endorsement, your testing gives confidence. No GTX 980 for you? Won't hackentosh maybe?

 

[Paul Provost]

I'm not crazy about the NMP, but the top model can easily playback r3d 5k full premium. Don't know what was causing the slowdown for you. unless maybe it was 5k 16x9 3:1 compression or something. That's tough to play back.
Best value is buy a used 8 core 5,1 Mac Pro - swap out the processors for x5680 3.3ghz 12 core. Put in a gtx 980 (must use yosemite).
Throw an ssd in the optical bay, 4 x 3tb in the hdd bays, a usb/esata card, 4k deck link, and done. No compatibility issues, native prores, and it will playback 4&5k in a UHD sequence to a UHD tv. Pretty amazing for a few bucks. You really start hitting diminishing returns with these huge builds. If you need more power, reconsider the caching function in resolve.

 

[luigivaltulini]

I'm not crazy about the NMP, but the top model can easily playback r3d 5k full premium. Don't know what was causing the slowdown for you. unless maybe it was 5k 16x9 3:1 compression or something. That's tough to play back.
Best value is buy a used 8 core 5,1 Mac Pro - swap out the processors for x5680 3.3ghz 12 core. Put in a gtx 980 (must use yosemite).
Throw an ssd in the optical bay, 4 x 3tb in the hdd bays, a usb/esata card, 4k deck link, and done. No compatibility issues, native prores, and it will playback 4&5k in a UHD sequence to a UHD tv. Pretty amazing for a few bucks. You really start hitting diminishing returns with these huge builds. If you need more power, reconsider the caching function in resolve.

Paul is certain ...
but then again all the cards in the old MacPro stay there, you need an expander ..
I like to have everything inside a house.
however it maybe I will run with files of at least 5:1 6khd R3D full debayer in real time without Redrocket. .. Now with this PC I do if I can just try Windows..just want to try if I can even osx

However, and only a test ... but promising ...
Now look the Ati r9 290x 8gb I hope I can make it work

and to think that the old gtx 590 run in real time to 6kh 3: 1 in half debayer in resolve.
ehehh cute

everything in and still have pci slot free .. fantastic

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[Paul Provost]

The system I described is self contained, no expander box. If you absolutely have to have all the slots, realtime 6k full premium, etc, then of course build a super computer, (My primary system has expander, tons of cards, giant fast storage, etc.) but you end up paying a LOT for a little extra capability. You could build 2, 3, even 4 systems like I described, for the cost of 1 top of the line NMP or super PC / Hackintosh.
Also I tried the brand new 290x 8gb a couple weeks ago in Yosemite and was very disappointed. (I run 4 280x 6gb in Cubix normally) maybe the Mac drivers are still no good, but a 290x was not really faster than a 280x in resolve : (

 

[luigivaltulini]

Also I tried the brand new 290x 8gb a couple weeks ago in Yosemite and was very disappointed. (I run 4 280x 6gb in Cubix normally) maybe the Mac drivers are still no good, but a 290x was not really faster than a 280x in resolve : (

thanks for the info Paul.
Interesting, I've only taken as reference tests .barefeats and I chose the video card
I choose AMD because the plugin in Resolve run well on OpenCL and AMd be faster Nvidia and cost half the price.
However I do the tests, Supermicro have 4-lane PCIe 3.0, then with full band ... Maybe you've tried the card mode 'PCIe 1.0 ?, so it is exactly the same as the Speed of r280x,I'm just thinking.
However it will be interesting, and I am very pleased that you contribute to the discussion, that serve all, thanks PAul

http://www.barefeats.com/gtx980.html

 

[Paul Provost]

Hi Luigi
Sure glad to pass on any info. Rob at bare feats was testing inside a Mac pro. In a Cubix it runs at 2.0 speed. I think it's the driver as it should be faster, but sometimes it doesn't always work that way with resolve. Remember the gtx 580 stayed a fast resolve card way past its lifetime.
The AMD are a great deal, especially for high ram cards. That's why I use 4 of them! Apple only supports 2 Nvidia cards now. But You do know that opencl is broken right now with amd cards on Mac right? I'm having to boot into windows to render 4k delivery jobs with noise reduction or Ofx. Lots of threads about it. The NMP people are screaming bloody murder after spending $10k for a "great resolve 4k machine" and can't even render jobs without huge glitches everywhere.