8K CF Weapon Sensor Upgrade

[Ryan Lightbourn]

If I want to upgrade from Epic MX to Vista Dragon Scarlet Weapon w/ 10K deposit before NAB, can I Carbon Fiber my Epic Dragon Weapon with a 10K trade in on my Red One MX... or is that EOL before June?

 

[Petr Dvorak]

Sesto Elemento forged frame

 

[Jeff McCoy]

Ordered 8K CF Weapon upgrade from Epic-X Dragon. Could not be more happy! THANK YOU RED!!!!

 

[Kemalettin Sert]

Whats up with the new PL mount?

 

[Subhadip Sen]

Just a very minor detail, but I like how the pixel size is once again exactly 5.0 micron. Makes for an easy calculation to get from 40.96 x 21.60 (mm) to 8192 x 4320 (pixels).

Naturally, the question to follow would be, is this just a bigger slice of optimized Dragon silicon? Or is it new tech?

Bigger slice 100%

Yes, you are probably right. It does read "Dragon 8K" on the product.

 

[Jay A. Kelley]

Yeah, this is way outside my range. I'm just a normal person though and this sort of thing was not targeted to me. It's for the 1% red people! Ha!

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Whats up with the new PL mount?

What new PL mount? The CF Weapon comes with the black Magnesium PL mount, which is part of the current EPIC Carbon Dragon kit.

 

[Anton Shavlik]

The screws are attached now I guess

 

[Maik Müller]

What new PL mount? The CF Weapon comes with the black Magnesium PL mount, which is part of the current EPIC Carbon Dragon kit.

This one is listed as new:
http://www.red.com/store/products/dsmc-magnesium-pl-mount-captive

 

[Dunkan Wolf]

Yes, you are probably right. It does read "Dragon 8K" on the product.

They might have improved the A/D, signal to noise ratio and bandwidth throughput though. Pixel design is likely to be the same

 

[Russ Fill]

I wonder what the weight is on the Forged CF vs the Other CF Weapon? And is there any other spec's the forged has or its just plane cool looking???

 

[Adrien oneiga]

From reading a bit, does the internal ProRes not go more than 120FPS? is that because it's scaling vs windowing(cropping) the sensor?
I was hoping that this release would unlock the potential for shooting high frames at a normal frame size, but from the looks of it it's not possible still. any clarification would be great!

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

This one is listed as new:
http://www.red.com/store/products/dsmc-magnesium-pl-mount-captive

Heh. I would go with Anton's postulation that they're now including captive screws with it.

Seriously though, they haven't been making the Magnesium mount available in the past, but now we can buy it separate from the CF brains and that's most likely what makes it "new." Or at least it was not available separately last I checked.

 

[PatrickFaith]

I am still amazed at the VV format, a great deal too - thanks much to all the people at RED to make this happen.

 

[Kemalettin Sert]

Heh. I would go with Anton's postulation that they're now including captive screws with it.

Seriously though, they haven't been making the Magnesium mount available in the past, but now we can buy it separate from the CF brains and that's most likely what makes it "new." Or at least it was not available separately last I checked.

sorry Jeff i dont understand captive screws meaning.They are like fixed?

 

[Stephen Lovett]

Hi Kemalettin, the stay with the mount or body, like the screws on a tripod plate

 

[Glen David Miller]

I have to say I'm a little disappointed the sensor isn't 24mm tall so you could have a proper 36x24 mode for stills.

That would be amazing. Although, that said, if you crop a little off the top or bottom (vert shooting) - then there it is. It's sort of stills with extra room if you think about it that way.

What would be nice is a STILLS Crop Mode. Which would be great for run and gun stills shooting when you don't want to get trapped pondering if you've framed for a print or billboard.

-Glen

 

[Kemalettin Sert]

Hi Kemalettin, the stay with the mount or body, like the screws on a tripod plate

Ah thanks..Anyone know weight difference between Ti PL and MG PL? Does it worth double price?

 

[Adam Johnson]

LOL yup!

Yeah, this is way outside my range. I'm just a normal person though and this sort of thing was not targeted to me. It's for the 1% red people! Ha!

 

[Mike 'Fireman' Ross]

Yes. The Weapon CF has more power under the hood than the magnesium.

Dumb dumb dumb.

I'll pay for the power.

I'll pay for the 8K.

I will NOT pay for a fancy schmancy CF body I don't need or want. That CF body material is a substantial cost - look at the price difference between Dragon and Dragon CF, for NO difference in performance. Plus, I work on volcanoes. I won't take a CF body on a volcano, period. You should see the state the CF parts of my Red matte box were in after I took that on a red hot lava shoot!

If this is true, it's a major misstep, and may mark the beginning of the end of my relationship with Red. I'm not wildly enthused by the value of the Weapon upgrade - but not making the 8K sensor and electronics upgrade available in a standard metal body is just dumb and wrong and incomprehensible. Except for a few people juggling ounces in specialist applications, CF isn't needed or wanted. I can't understand why Red have gone this route. CF is great on a race car, but pointless extravagance on a workaday movie camera body.

Mike