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720P and 1080P... losers

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ziggx said:
High speeds... in 30 years of film-making I've needed to over crank on a handful of occasions - if I want 250fps I would hire in a special camera built to do that. Common sense suggests that the vast majority will shoot at normal speeds for most of their working lives. The exceptions might be those shooting wild life films or the odd time when slo mo is needed.

Ziggx
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I agree with Zigg here that most people will record at real time speeds, most of, if not all the time. I however will need higher frame rates for my work.
As I was going to purchase my RED with RAW port for this very reason, would it be a possibility that those cameras fitted with the RAW port have as many overcranking options as possible including 1080 and 720 recording modes so we can do this kind of work with the maximum frame rates still intact?
This is just a suggestion. Can't you tell that I'm trying to hang on to 120fps for dear life!!

Cam
 
I vote to get rid of 720p all together no matter the frame rate.

For the time being, 1080p will be the highest consumer standard for HD distribution (hd-dvd and blu-ray)..so I would shoot the highest frame rate that 1080p will allow for slomo stuff.

Is 120fps 1080p possible to cf?

To reiterate, i definitely think 96fps at 2k is still AMAAAAZING. Great news.
 
Also shooting 720p at 120fps allows us to use the 35mm frame whereas 2K would limit us to the 16mm frame.

Frame rate and film plane size are the only reasons I can think of to keep the RGB options.
 
i Think 120fps at 1080p would be a great compromise - and kill the 720.

Is that even possible?

Keith
 
Jim, I agree if you are talking about RED ONE only being used as a Cinema Camera... 2K at 96fps.. sweet.

but I must admit being a bit surprised by this question. I think to limit the 1080 and 720 capabilities would be a real bummer for those interested in ENG and EFP applications. As some have mentioned, the quick turn around in many of these environments is a factor. I work in many different environments, and I know I would appreciate more format options than less.

I'd be interested in hearing Gibby's response to this proposal.
 
Casey Green said:
Jim, I agree if you are talking about RED ONE only being used as a Cinema Camera... 2K at 96fps.. sweet.

but I must admit being a bit surprised by this question. I think to limit the 1080 and 720 capabilities would be a real bummer for those interested in ENG and EFP applications. As some have mentioned, the quick turn around in many of these environments is a factor. I work in many different environments, and I know I would appreciate more format options than less.

I'd be interested in hearing Gibby's response to this proposal.
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We don't have to change anything... it was just a thought. But we don't have the space to do everything. We can leave the spec as it is OR we can get creative at the last minute. I don't really care either way. I'll shoot 4K at 24fps to CF or either 720P @ 120fps or 2K at 96fps to CF. My personal preference is 2K @ 96fps, but I'm just one customer. If the majority wants 720P @ 120fps... that's what we'll do. We can't do both. In hindsight, we would have put in a bigger FPGA (not available when we started) but then the price of the camera would be $4K more expensive. Choices... choices.

Jim
 
All this 720p talk reminded me of the time at this year's NAB when I walked by the JVC booth hearing them rave about "full hd 720p" technology. Yet here is Jim asking us about whether it is even necessary to include it as a recording option. Good times.
 
I'd pay 4k more for higher frame rates or more options. If that's what you were saying Jim.
 
IMHO...2K @ 96fps

For now I'll interpolate to get faster speeds until a future upgrade.

Thanks for making us part of the process.

aloha,

Keith
 
Hey Jim

I always thought the RED ONE was truly a cinema camera at heart and would personally vote out the 720 and even the 1080 options if it meant more fps at 2k. There are plenty 1080 cameras on the market to suit the needs of those interested in ENG/EFP applications. RED ONE is a Cinema Camera. ;)
 
Jannard said:
We don't have to change anything... it was just a thought. But we don't have the space to do everything. We can leave the spec as it is OR we can get creative at the last minute. I don't really care either way. I'll shoot 4K at 24fps to CF or either 720P @ 120fps or 2K at 96fps to CF. My personal preference is 2K @ 96fps, but I'm just one customer. If the majority wants 720P @ 120fps... that's what we'll do. We can't do both. In hindsight, we would have put in a bigger FPGA (not available when we started) but then the price of the camera would be $4K more expensive. Choices... choices.

Jim
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I see... always difficult in these types of choices...

Question: Would it be possible to allow a firmware option for the customer to toggle modes? Or does this HAVE to be hardwired?
 
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"but I must admit being a bit surprised by this question. I think to limit the 1080 and 720 capabilities would be a real bummer for those interested in ENG and EFP applications. "

Could we keep 1080p and 2K 96?
 
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