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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

720P and 1080P... losers

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If we don't get a clear signal... we'll keep it as it is. And I'll do a special build for me. :-)

Jim
 
Why is it one or the other? Why can't you enable both 720p120 and 2k96?
 
Jim you are a BAD ASS ! I personally will never shoot Red at 720 or 1080 and I think the more you simplify the better, there have too many options. Just look at what the big boys are doing with record and time code.

I vote 100% for 2K @ 96fps !

Please don't delay.. I need my first Red even in it's most basic functions.
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Shawn Nelson said:
Why is it one or the other? Why can't you enable both 720p120 and 2k96?
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FPGA space... imagine what we are giving compared to the competition. Think of the box size. Just think about it for a moment. There is a limit to what we can do. I know that seems an impossible concept since we are offering so much, but trust me... there is a limit.

Jim
 
Haskell, I appreciate your passion but I think RED will push the bounderies in EFP/ENG as well.

One factor that we have not considered when we talk about eliminating 1080p and 720p is what is the time factor for downrezing from 4K or 2K to those formats.
That may be a consideration for someone who has to deliver in 1080p on a tight turn. If it's a realtime downconvert on transfer then I guess it's not an issue as long as we don't lose those formats for realtime output with HD-SDI.
 
Personally, as much as I salivate over being able to shoot 120fps digitally, I would rather do 2K at 96fps and do some software interpolation to get to 120 if I needed it.

I'm going to be doing all my shooting at 4K, so having to blow 720P up to 4K for super slo-motion doesn't seem completely attractive to me.

I think once we all get our hands on 4K as a living breathing way of life, up-rezzing anything is just going to feel dirty... ;-)
 
Please keep the higher frame rates Jim! It's really too bad that 120@2k isn't going to be possible, but I suppose Ill make due with 120@720p. What about 240@480p?
 
If you need 720 and 1080 on super tight deadlines then maybe Red is not the best choice.
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It's looking like 2K at 96fps, Jim but maybe you could do a poll and leave it up for a day to get a more accurate vote.
 
_BK said:
Please keep the higher frame rates Jim! It's really too bad that 120@2k isn't going to be possible, but I suppose Ill make due with 120@720p. What about 240@480p?
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480P? What's that?

Jim
 
I'm going to listen to this board for a few days before we do anything. It is a nice thing to mull over.

Jim
 
I don't understand why you would miss 720 / 1080.(especially with 2K 96fps) You edit 4k raw and output at whatever !! where is the problem ???
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I really think your customers should get as many shooting options as possible... why limit them? If you say its the "FPGA" thats holding you guys back.. then get a bigger freakin "FPGA"!
 
Jim can you include VHS please ?
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Open 4K or 2K in a FCP timeline and output what ever you want.

Or open in REDCINE and output whatever you want.

Just saying...

Jim
 
no, really, it's not a nice thing to mull over Jim. Anybody who thinks that frame rate over resolution is acceptable is a moron.
 
Whats the time hit addtion with the encode from raw ?

ie.. 2k rcr > 1080p24 (somecodec)

Apart from the encoding time ..whats the hit with scaling the image down? Can you even do that in RedCine?

Only thing is if were doing something that is a bit short on time.. and it's 1080.. and quite a long piece I don't want to sit while it renders something thats giving me an really small downscale that no one will probably notice so I can actually put it on tape.

Fair enough with 720P .. ;)

Thats my only thought...
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edit.. actually now I've woken up! Most people will be doing loads more to the footage before they lay off so not that big a time hit considering.
 
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