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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

640gb red drive

Jarred Land said:
for you guys that are sweating over the new size (Murphy's law, someone is always going to complain no matter what we do :) I am sure there are plenty of 320gb owners that will trade you theirs for your 640gb version, if it really bothers you that much :)
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I don't think we are complaining about RED making improvements upon their product line. I for one welcome that kind of innovation and change.
From a DIT perspective, more media COULD potentially mean more hours after wrap hanging out in the dark. But hey, its all about managing and optimizing your workflows to avoid those scenarios.

Don't take it as a knock to RED, just a bunch of DIT's sweating a little at the scenarios that could arise as a result of your genius work to forever improve upon your product line.
 
Cool, Jarred. Thanks for keeping the price the same.

I have a couple of thoughts on this. First off, 640GB is quite a bit of footage to "risk" on one drive, but it definitely opens up some possibilities that were limited before for certain shooting situations (documentaries, nature/wildlife). One does not NEED to use the entire space anyway. It just gives you more options. It's all about proper management. Good work.

One thing I think this is very good news for is the upcoming release of Scarlet and EPIC. When we start dealing with 5K and 6K, I'm sure people will be very happy that 640GB REDDRIVES are already here (even if an adapter is needed and lower RECODE data rates are required).

:-)

A couple of questions:

1) Can RED mark these drives with some sort of label stating they are 640GB so they are easy to differentiate in the field? (similar to how the REDRAM drives are grey, maybe these can get an added 640GB sticker or engravement on them?)

2) Are these drives any faster during transfers?

Thanks again for your continued improvements to the program.
 
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Yay!!!

But I'm not so excited about the capacity. I always take a break and offload the current RED Drive every 20-30 minutes of shooting anyway. I don't usually delete anything off of it, but keep the backups rolling, just in case. It's a robust little drive, but mechanical HDD's in a RAID-0 scare me.

What I'm excited about is the increased density of the drives and hopefully that translates to faster performance for quicker offloads (uh, if connected via SATA) and better write times for more options on the upcoming cameras.

Jarred, you forgot to announce that the RED RAM has been lowered in price to $2500 and now has 256GB capacity. Hehehe...
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Yay!!!

But I'm not so excited about the capacity. I always take a break and offload the current RED Drive every 20-30 minutes of shooting anyway. I don't usually delete anything off of it, but keep the backups rolling, just in case. It's a robust little drive, but mechanical HDD's in a RAID-0 scare me.

What I'm excited about is the increased density of the drives and hopefully that translates to faster performance for quicker offloads (uh, if connected via SATA) and better write times for more options on the upcoming cameras.

Jarred, you forgot to announce that the RED RAM has been lowered in price to $2500 and now has 256GB capacity. Hehehe...
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See now that info about the RED RAM is some news. That makes me way more excited than the upgrade to the RED Drive.
 
ill trade any new owners...i have 4 320 drives...pm me if you are unhappy with your 640 g drives. ill pay shipping.
 
Casey Green said:
1) Can RED mark these drives with some sort of label stating they are 640GB so they are easy to differentiate in the field? (similar to how the REDRAM drives are grey, maybe these can get an added 640GB sticker or engravement on them?)
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They will be marked as 640GB, yes. Serial number label that includes drive capacity.

BC
 
One advantage to the bigger drive is that if you offload at the same frequency as you normally do, you don't have to reformat for twice the duration. That means you have more time for footage to go through the workflow before you have to erase media. Import thing is to have enough media to cycle frequently.
 
Jarred Land said:
for you guys that are sweating over the new size (Murphy's law, someone is always going to complain no matter what we do :) I am sure there are plenty of 320gb owners that will trade you theirs for your 640gb version, if it really bothers you that much :)
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hehe not complaining.. just the opposite.. someone stated that alot of people (current raid owners) would be upset..

def not upset one bit.. in fact the new raids are PERFECT for live events and such:)
 
I am happy, I just bought my RED, it is in the mail, on its way to me here in Mozambique, Africa, and to think I was disappointed that the RED DRIVE I had ordered was not included in the shipment, and now I know why, UUUUPPPPIIII, double the memory, I had nearly bought two 320 GB drives, then I changed my mind and got one 320GB and two 16GB CARDS.
Never been so happy to have a delivery delayed....
 
Jarred Land said:
for you guys that are sweating over the new size (Murphy's law, someone is always going to complain no matter what we do :) I am sure there are plenty of 320gb owners that will trade you theirs for your 640gb version, if it really bothers you that much :)
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hahahaha post of the day
 
Jarred Land said:
I am sure there are plenty of 320gb owners that will trade you theirs for your 640gb version, if it really bothers you that much :)
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My two drives are up for that challenge! One of them no longer accepts power through the firewire 800, but I will not hold that against anyone who wants to trade with me ;-)
 
Andrew Walker said:
See now that info about the RED RAM is some news. That makes me way more excited than the upgrade to the RED Drive.
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Sorry, I was kidding... I wish it were true.
 
I can't believe people are not happy about an essentially 'free' upgrade to accessories at the same price. Forget the whole ....ooohh it's too much data to risk....do what you do and just see this for what it is, an upgrade on the accessories and keeping the price the same.

By the way, i have two 320gb drives ready to swap with the 640gb so you don't have to worry about having too much storage space:) PM and they are yours, i'll even pay the shipping from OZ!
 
I'm with you

I'm with you

I'm with you Brigham,

This is nothing but good news.

Even if you are only going to use a portion of the capacity, the fact that the platters will be using less of their area to store the same amount of data means that the space that you do use will occupy a "better" location on the disk (think near the edge of the platter where rotational speeds are higher.)

This means that all things being equal, on the 2.5" drives, the larger drive will give you faster speeds.

This holds true even when things are not equal.

I did some test for my mini arrays that I've built to provide top flight DIT service, and I consistently saw better throughput on a 500GB 2.5" 5400 rpm drives than I did on a 320GB 2.5" 7200 rpm drives, which many would find counter intuitive.

Nothing but good news, and if you put a piece of camera tape over the serial number and don't mention the higher capacity....

Thanks again to the Red team!

:smiley:

Steve
 
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Thanks Red Team!!!

One more time you make my day! :cornut: This ups really never end???. Congrats!

this kind of business will conquer the world. One more time, thanks :001_tt1:
 
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