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5k Retina iMac

The inevitable 4K Retina iMac is apparently being tested in Apple labs if the latest rumors based on analysis of the current OS X Beta build code is accurate. No information other than "new" GPU hardware and a resolution that is slightly greater than the 4K DCI spec, with a 16:9 aspect ratio.
 
Does anyone haver any problema with the iMac 5k?

mine went to a Apple to repair cause during premiere editing it started to reboot, it came back last week they told me it was everything ok and didn't find anything, today it did the same...

When I send it to Apple it started to crash ocasionally once ir two times a day, but the crash's become more frequent ir a couple of days until it become to crash al the time a few minutes after turn it on...

I have the full specs with 1 tb SSD and 32 GB OWC memory, I also use a OWC raid 5 with 12tb but it crash's without the raid.

I thought it was from premiere and bought final cut, but it crashes too...

Did this appened to anyone?

Any Idea?
 
If you didn't reinstall the Mac OS immediately when you buy a new Mac system, probably need to do that now, the vanilla install from the factory is always buggy. Weird things like random restarts, mouse always disconnecting, or other weird stuff is pretty common otherwise.
 
If you didn't reinstall the Mac OS immediately when you buy a new Mac system, probably need to do that now, the vanilla install from the factory is always buggy. Weird things like random restarts, mouse always disconnecting, or other weird stuff.

They install it on the repair service, I couldn't cause It crashed during instalation.
 
I think I found the problem on the Imac 5K kernel panic's...

I did a test on "memtest" with all four dimm's and the imac crashed, I removed the top one and at the begging of the test also crashed, removed the second and voilà, no crashes and the test went to the end and reported no errors.

I repeated the test with the 2 dimm's I removed, one at a time with both dimm's that "where OK" and it crashed on both test with both dimm's, It looked very strange to me 2 dimm's with problems at the same time!

So I removed the bottom 2 (the ones that rum the test to the end and where ok) an put on bottom slots the ones that "where not OK" and the test also said that they where OK...

So the problem is not my dimm's, but the two slots on top!!!
 
So with Skylake out now, the rumors are circulating of a Q3 launch for the new iMac (http://www.macrumors.com/2015/08/03/imacs-faster-processors-improved-displays-kgi/)

I hope this happens. I'm ready to jump on it.

You'd be jumping into a bit of a pothole. Skylake might be the latest and greatest, but it really brings nothing to the table worth paying for, as it really is just an incremental bump up from Broadwell. Kaby Lake, which comes next year, is what you want to spend your money on. It trumps Skylake in several areas, notably the GPU. According to current information, Skylake is lacking HDMI 2.0 and DisplayPort 1.3 support, both of which will be standard in Kaby Lake, and Skylake's GPU is not really up to driving a 4K display on a low-end iMac. Once Kaby Lake comes out, you'll have an integrated GPU that is good enough for a low-end 4K iMac and discrete GPU options with HBM that will drive the high-end 4K/5K configurations, along with less expensive (relative to current prices) high-density DDR4 memory, and better storage and peripheral options. Intel is not close to 10nm at this point and they won't be getting there or need to get there any time soon, so Kaby Lake will likely be their flagship product for a significant amount of time as AMD has yet to catch up and Intel hasn't really figured out what to do with stacked memory, which is something they need to get sorted out in order to compete with AMD, whose next-gen APU's with HBM and multi-threaded cores are capable of annihilating Intel's consumer marketshare.
 
I bought the 3.5Ghz version with 24Gb of RAM and 4GB Graphics card and for what basic editing work I do....its absolutely fantastic, not to mention that the display is an absolute delight to work on even for extended hours. RED files look friggin amazing played back on this baby.
The only thing I noticed and I assume that this is an OsX problem in general and not just limited to the 5K Imac....the system starts choking hardcore and gets almost unusably slow when you have less than 10GB of free HDD space on the system drive.
 
Looking for a little advice from a much better informed group then myself. I am in ( almost desperate ) need of a new desk top computer. Had always planned to make it the 5K iMac 4GHz i7 but now with a new model around the corner I am unsure. I do light weight editing and moving to FCPX. Viewing and some transcoding of Red footage along with a little playing around in Resolve. I am not an editor but my current system just can't handle the 5k Dragon footage I shoot most often. A newer faster machine also comes with a new higher price. Is the general feeling that the new machine expected in the next few months is going to be worth the wait and increased price? In your opinion?
 
You'd be jumping into a bit of a pothole. Skylake might be the latest and greatest, but it really brings nothing to the table worth paying for, as it really is just an incremental bump up from Broadwell. Kaby Lake, which comes next year, is what you want to spend your money on. It trumps Skylake in several areas, notably the GPU. According to current information, Skylake is lacking HDMI 2.0 and DisplayPort 1.3 support, both of which will be standard in Kaby Lake, and Skylake's GPU is not really up to driving a 4K display on a low-end iMac. Once Kaby Lake comes out, you'll have an integrated GPU that is good enough for a low-end 4K iMac and discrete GPU options with HBM that will drive the high-end 4K/5K configurations, along with less expensive (relative to current prices) high-density DDR4 memory, and better storage and peripheral options. Intel is not close to 10nm at this point and they won't be getting there or need to get there any time soon, so Kaby Lake will likely be their flagship product for a significant amount of time as AMD has yet to catch up and Intel hasn't really figured out what to do with stacked memory, which is something they need to get sorted out in order to compete with AMD, whose next-gen APU's with HBM and multi-threaded cores are capable of annihilating Intel's consumer marketshare.
This is oddly similar to what everyone said about Skylake last year. There's always going to
be something better.
 
Don't know your whole story Ted but it sure sounds like a new iMac could be your answer. It's a modest investment when you consider the value of the screen itself. It won't be as fast as a real workstation, but unless you have hardware glitches or other weirdness it should be very plug and play. I wouldn't worry too much about the timing in terms of new iMacs in the pipeline. If you really need max muscle you should get a workstation anyway, if your needs/budget are more modest then the differences are unlikely to impact you much.

FWIW, I'm a Mac guy and I see the latest iMacs as an affordable bridge to the second generation NeoMP cylinder. YMMV.

Cheers - #19
 
I've been jamming on my fully spec'd 5k iMac since December and it has been phenomenal. I usually don't require a ton of heavy lifting but I have yet
to be disappointed. I've also gotten a softish rolling case for it and has become the best on set computer I've owned. Pair it with owc thunderbolt 2 dock and you have terrific expandability and legacy connections with a minimal footprint. If you need it jump in, it kept me with Apple for the time being.
 
Blair, Peter thanks for you feed back. I agree. I jus wasn't sure if the next generation of iMac was looking to be a game changer but the current version juiced up will handle my needs just fine.

cheers
 
Skylake processors will feature improved Iris Pro integrated graphics capable of driving up to three 4K monitors at 60Hz,
whereas Haswell architecture could drive a single 4K monitor at 30Hz and Broadwell architecture could handle a single 4K monitor at 60Hz.


http://www.macrumors.com/2015/08/19/intel-skylake-three-4k-monitors-60hz-details/
 
Skylake spec bump released today.

No more 27" non-retina macs, either...so that's cool!

Kilgroe, is this the update a lot of us have been waiting for?
 
Price went down, 32GB with 4GB GPU and 4GHz CPU, 1TB flash is almost $800 less now. Expect about +5% performance bump with the new 4GHz CPU compared to the previous. GPU is quite a bit better. Still wish it was an nVidia...

I don't know if this is the update we wanted. Thunderbolt 3 isn't ready yet... Instead of the 4 x USB 3.0 ports, I would have liked to see 2 x USB 3.0 and 1 x (or maybe 2 x) USB 3.1 10Gbps ports (USB-C).

Other than that, it's a respectable update. The next update is probably the one everyone wants as it *SHOULD* bring us USB-C with v3.5 support and Thunderbolt 3.
 
Like the BAT SIGNAL! That was impressive.

How is performance with the AMD chips in Premiere? I have been using a Hackintosh I built in early 2013 and it runs fine (NVIDIA 680 w/2GB memory).

But it's getting a little long in the tooth, and I want to go to something a little more streamlined in my office. This thing is a behemoth of cables.
 
Yes. I was wishing for TB3 and USB-C, but I don´t think I can wait for another cycle. My 3.1 MP is getting long in the tooth (still chugs along though).
Can you run Resolve at all on this thing?
 
Like the BAT SIGNAL! That was impressive.

How is performance with the AMD chips in Premiere? I have been using a Hackintosh I built in early 2013 and it runs fine (NVIDIA 680 w/2GB memory).

But it's getting a little long in the tooth, and I want to go to something a little more streamlined in my office. This thing is a behemoth of cables.

Put it this way. There are many Mac users in the Adobe forums who are not happy at all. I would not suggest it. Adobe still has allot to do to catch Open CL up to Cuda especially with stability and memory management.
 
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