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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

"4K Display at home is still years away..."

Bob Gundu said:
I heard they were way more than that.
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Well if you include the stand, that tacks on an extra $50,000.00. But I hear it also lays the monitor flat, which I guess means it could double as a dinner table as well.
 
Marc Wielage said:
I'm still more concerned about how the projectors reproduce dynamic range. 4K is meaningless unless it also handles black detail, contrast, good grayscale, accurate color, and all the other aspects of picture quality. The "K" is only one small part of picture quality.
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The Sony VW-1000 handles all of that with aplomb.

"Given a good 1920 x 1080 HD source, the projector produced some of the best 2D images I’ve yet seen."
http://www.hometheater.com/content/sony-vpl-vw1000es-4k-sxrd-projector-0
Measured Full-On/Full-Off Contrast Ratio: 152,000:1 (compare to 3,000:1 or less in your typical commercial cinema projector)


"There have been three times in my life that I saw a projected image from a home theater unit that left me grasping for superlatives. The initial experience was in the late 1980s the first time I saw a CRT projector fed by a laser disc source projected onto a 60" screen, which at the time seemed enormous. The second time experience was when I saw my first high-definition 3-chip DLP, the SIM2 C3X at CEDIA several years ago. The third time was the other day when I spent 20 or 30 minutes watching Blu-ray (2D and 3D) on the Sony VPL-VW1000ES... I found the image absolutely seductive. Going into the evaluation, because I had never seen much benefit to upscaling DVDs to 1080p, I was skeptical about the ability of a 4K projector to improve upon 2K Blu-ray. I was wrong. The image had a subtle but unmistakable added solidity and great depth. But what was most appealing to me was the color performance, which offered deep, rich, and vibrant colors without a hint of oversaturation."
http://www.chromapure.com/newgear_sony4k.asp
 
I just got projector wood!

oh and buy the way Tom... Great job!


Tom Lowe said:
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Oh really? Because here's a photo of a 4K screening of "TimeScapes" at my friend Peter Chang's house the other night, using the new Sony 4K home projector.... :ciappa:
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Peter Chang said:
Measured Full-On/Full-Off Contrast Ratio: 152,000:1 (compare to 3,000:1 or less in your typical commercial cinema projector)
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"Dynamic iris" doesn't count.
 
It's coming my friends!!
 
Ryan Farnes said:
I'll swing by Best Buy and get a setup like that for my Mom this weekend.
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My local Best Buy is taking pre-orders for two different 4K TV models.... Just sayin'
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
My local Best Buy is taking pre-orders for two different 4K TV models.... Just sayin'
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Coolio. What models? Link?

The discussion is tough because the definition of "availability" is subjective. While some define availability in terms of early stage high cost availability, I would define 4K in the home more around ubiquitous availability, price, playback availability, home distribution, etc...but that is because I'm not producing a very high level yet. (hits own head against wall) Anything I do for the next year or two, I wouldn't know what to do with a 4K finish. For now...

The Red projector is out later this year right? $10000 for 4K 3D right? Out of my price range, but definitely way exciting.
 
Don't have a link, but it's the 55" Toshiba model and I'm not sure of the other -- I think it's the Sony 50-something inch. The Toshiba is already delivering to consumers in Japan.

As exciting as it is, I don't see anyone really buying them until there is actual 4K content to display. Sony's up-converting Blu-Ray player is all that's out there at the moment. And given the price of the Toshiba, around $9500, I may as well buy that Red projector. And I'm planning to do just that. ;)
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
And given the price of the Toshiba, around $9500, I may as well buy that Red projector. And I'm planning to do just that. ;)
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Same here, I think there is a huge space for the RED projector. I btw just noticed the addition at timescapes of a 4k release ( http://timescapes.org/products/default.aspx - when I bought my blueray version I was wondering when there would be a 4k version ;) . From a channel perspective this is really cool, since I bought the blueray version of timescapes, I will also buy the 4k version after I get the projector. (i.e. allows future sales oppertunities, like I have a version of "2001" for VCR, dvd, and blue ray ... now I want a version of 2001 for 4k, when I get that projector). To me ... all the old 70mm stuff will be great on 4k, but there will be very limited amount of 35 mm and recent arri films that will benefit from 4k (basically the only stuff that has good 4k re-release potential is stuff shot on RED or 70mm).
 
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Yes, we just added 4K versions of TimeScapes and will soon be adding 2560x1440p downloads.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
And given the price of the Toshiba, around $9500, I may as well buy that Red projector. And I'm planning to do just that. ;)
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Agreed. I'd totally spring for a projector over a screen.

Will be interesting to watch the transition. Whether it comes fast or slow and if there is a clamor for 4K content. And if Red dominates or if the F65, Alexa's successor (assumgin it is 4K), the 1DC, etc will ensure just about everything is being produced in 4K in the next year or so as the market eases into 4K.
 
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