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48fps... I've converted.

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When I 1st heard that PJ would shoot the Hobbit at 48fps... I was skeptical. To me, 24fps was "sometime". 48fps was "this morning".

I have to say that I am now a convert. The way this was shot (thank Andrew Lesnie), the VFX and Gollum... 48fps is "other worldly". In a good way. A way you have never experienced before.

Peter is much smarter than I thought. And I always thought he was pretty smart.

48fps on this movie is like nothing you have ever seen... magnificent.

Wipe your mind of preconceived notions. Forget "the will of the mass mind". This is just plain better.

There are so many reasons why to watch this movie...

Jim
 
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Just wait till you see 120fps. You need to stop by Doug Trumbull's place ;)


By the way, I agree that 48fps is magnificent. But after seeing 48, 60, 72, and 120fps it is no coincidence the higher the frame rate the more "alive" the picture becomes. As Doug always says It's like "looking through a window onto reality." Crazy awesome stuff!
 
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I've been waiting for someone to do this since "Mindstorm"
 
I'm holding out for 1,000,000 fps and RedEye, the cybernetic eye by Red
 
you mean Brainstorm hehe ;)

Just wait guys...the future of cinema is upon us headed by the likes of Jim Jannard with his magnificent Red technology and the genius of Douglas Trumbull pushing this tech out of this world!

Todd T said:
I've been waiting for someone to do this since "Mindstorm"
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Just plain better for film in general or for 3D projection? I would hope to agree with the ladder. 3D has missed the mark for many years and framerate is one of the biggest problems with current 3D. That and shallow depth of field.

It's time to move forward and stop sticking with what has been good enough.
 
48 fps has advantages. Fast camera moves no longer cause “strobing,” and individual frames are sharper. Action scenes are definitely smoother and more lifelike.
 
I have always found watching fast moving camera at 24 fps very jarring and when combined with 'chaos-cinema'/'intensified continuity' editing downright disorienting. Of course this response works rather well in some cases, but in most cases it is distracting to the movie at hand. Even more than 4K projection, I wish to see all action movies start exhibiting at 48 fps. I realise I am in a minority but I have confidence that given time people will embrace 48 fps. All that said, 24 fps still has its place and will continue to be used as an 'artistic device' for decades to come.
 
I've seen attempts at higher frame rates and thought they looked horrible. I'm willing to give The Hobbit a chance at 48fps. I'll open my mind and give it a fair shake. But if it's similar to what I've seen before (SHowscan) I'm gonna hate it.
 
NOOO!!!! Jim...

Actually I am always open to change and evolution. I'll watch both versions and judge for myself.

Jim, you saw the finished movie?
 
Be ready for a shock. Wipe your mind clean. It is unreal.

Jim
 
I gotta say, the closer we get to this movie's release, the more excited I'm getting. I was very ho-hum initially about the 48fps as well as the LOTR look in general, but trailer 3 has me singing a different tune.
 
This is a MUST WATCH movie... hopefully you will see it at 48fps.

Jim
 
I saw some Hobbit trailers in the theater (AMC) that were really oversaturated and looked awful. Same with spider man. I don't know what was going on with those trailers (no other trailer looked over saturated surrounding these trailers in that theater). But all other sources for these trailers look better and Spider Man looked very good in the theater. I am getting excited about this movie as I really loved LOTR trilogy.
 
I have been thinking about future proofing for 48 fps as well as having a 24 fps as a fall back. To get perfect 180 shutter in both formats would require shooting at 96 fps and 360 degrees(might be nice to have a mode in the epic that did this, could save 25% of the space since you wouldn't have to store the last quarter of the frame). Doing this also gives good photo coverage of the movie too.
 
The kids that ultimately pay my salary with movie ticket purchases these days spend more eyeball time looking at 60 FPS then anything else because of video games. They don't care about 24. High frame rate is the future.
 
Okay. 48fps it is then. My kids won't understand why their birthday parties are being filmed at 48fps in 5K but one day they'll appreciate my foresight. :)

-Michael
 
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