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Harry Clark

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harryclark said:
No takers?
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I am not surprised.

I have been doing some math lately.
In this whole world about 5000 movies are made every year.
Assuming a 2 month average shooting per movie, that will make 10K months a year. That is 850 shooting years. If everybody shoot with RED, (which is not going to happen for another 50 years), then we will need about 1000 REDs to do the job. In 2008, there will be over 5000 REDS in use. Or, in otherwords, there is an over abundance of REDs out there.

All enthusiasm we see on these forums are the result of anticipation of getting their first REDs. By next year this time, all the enthusiasm we see on these forums might turn to gloom and frustration. Boom and Bust. Add to the mix, another 10000 4K 24P Panasonics and Sonys. It will be avalanche following a lomg drought. Everybody will be drowned in 4k 24P and not enough projects to use it on.

I do not want to be the doom and gloom guy. I was just thinking aloud. I am sure I have not considered all the other parameters. Things may not be as bad. But, it is a thought anyway. I would like to hear other opinions.
 
whaaaa.....?
I'm selling some used cases on eBay.
I admit there's a glut of wannabees encroaching on the professional workspace, but we'll all still eat... I think...
H.
 
chuckt said:
I am not surprised.

I have been doing some math lately.
In this whole world about 5000 movies are made every year.
Assuming a 2 month average shooting per movie, that will make 10K months a year. That is 850 shooting years. If everybody shoot with RED, (which is not going to happen for another 50 years), then we will need about 1000 REDs to do the job. In 2008, there will be over 5000 REDS in use. Or, in otherwords, there is an over abundance of REDs out there.
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Interesting logic... although I assume you are ignoring the second and third largest users of 35mm cameras (and I'm guessing REDs): the commercial advertisers, and blue-chip documentaries.

I am constantly amazed at how single minded people on this forum are. Yes there are going to be alot of RED's, but there are going to be a lot of markets for them. Not just feature film, but commercials, documentaries, music videos, anything where 35mm film was used previously. I'm not saying REDs will replace 35mm but I can see a lot of applications where it would be preferable.

I doubt Starbucks thought "Gee.. only 2m people drink coffee daily, we'd better not open another Starbucks round the corner". Supply can drive demand, both ways.

my two cents
 
chuckt said:
I do not want to be the doom and gloom guy. I was just thinking aloud. I am sure I have not considered all the other parameters. Things may not be as bad. But, it is a thought anyway. I would like to hear other opinions.
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I would say it's correct you haven't considered all the parameters- if you think that movies are the only way to consume motion picture media you are making the same mistake that the music industry did with MP3s. Also there is no chance that cable companies or satellite are going to reduce the number of channels- much less HD channels. The only real challenge is how do we fit all the stuff into the bandwidth we have. For every writer's strike, or what have you there are 1,000 "wannabees" ready to take their place


And unfortunately us wannabees have ruined a perfectly good thread trying to sell some cases- sorry about that Harry
 
Ha!
That's OK, I guess there's no interest in the cases anyway...
And ALL discussions on this forum are interesting to me!
Cheers,
Harry
 
Me too- If I had lenses as nice as those I'd buy your cases ;)
 
There are several thousand features shot every year outside of the hollywood studio system but only a handful are good enough for distribution. 98 percent of camera requirements have nothing to do with narrative feature movies.

By the way only 10 computers were originally predicted to evey be required in the world. Guess the "experts?" were just a tad wrong on that one too.
 
Someone will most likely end up being the digital cinema version of Ed Wood- I could only dream to burn 4k footage on washed up actors, feather boas and bad FX.

If there are too many RED One cameras out there it couldn't have happened to a better company.
 
If it were up to you the naysayers there would still be no bridges to cross to see what lies on the other side. Story does not tell itself, it relies on the mind of the filmmaker and equipment is only a tool used to express that vision; is no matter how many of them there are in the world.

And I thought this was just an advert for used cine lens cases, not a whine bar.


Sorry Harry to further kidnap your sales forum. Good luck!
 
If you ask me this has already happened to the photography industry in a way. everyone with a d40 thinks they are a professional photographer. It doesn't really threaten any REAL photographers I know, because the amateurs are just that.
 
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