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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

1st problems in the field...

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Brook Willard said:
Man... I go out to see a movie and come back to this.
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Actually, I've been trying to watch a movie for the last couple of hours and I just can't seem to switch from Safari to the DVD Player application... But then again, the fact that I have already lost my mind/brain has been more than established.
 
Couldn't have asked for a sterner test heat-wise. The same weather front that is currently drowning us in the UK is burning up the rest of Europe, so when he's says it's hot in Spain he's not kidding.
 
How about clip-on plastic covers?
You could make them any colour you want :)
You could even have white or transparent plastic covers that one could paint in camo to match the environment especially if you are shooting with multiple remote cameras.
Over here (Greece) the temp shot up to 114.8 ºF in the shade.

Oh and here's a little expansion to the idea of clip-on covers.
How about an aluminium cover that has heat-pipes running throughout it's surface and you can hook it up to normal 1/2 or 1/3 inch pipes and watercool it like a CPU or graphics card on a computer?
 
Greg Voevodsky said:
Jim, Do you have a moisture sensor that will detect moisture and turn off the
red camera?

I've tried to be careful, but jumping in and out of air conditioning in a car with the camera in the trunk - I've triggered the humidity warning a few times both in the tropics and skiing no matter how I tried to warm or cool the camera before hand. I'd hate to hurt my RED. Is this issue addressed?
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I thought humidity was mainly an issue for rotating-head tape systems, or is it just bad for electronic devices in general?
 
Here's a novel idea that could have side benefits:

a built-in battery-powered refrigeration unit. Keep the sensors chilled, and with optional cup holders, keep our beers chilled too. :)
 
Desert Rune said:
Here's a novel idea that could have side benefits:

a built-in battery-powered refrigeration unit. Keep the sensors chilled, and with optional cup holders, keep our beers chilled too. :)
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And the surpluss heat from the fridge, could bu used to boil water for our Irish Coffees

Gunleik
 
Jannard said:
"Life is pretty easy to understand. Difficult to execute." That will be on my tombstone.

Jim
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Great quote, man!

Totally understood. :)

E. ;-)
 
European heatwave

European heatwave

SS and his crew are shooting under what can be termed the most extreme of weather conditions in recent European history. I haven't read any one mention this yet, but there seems to be a heatwave amongst other extreme weather conditions, including flooding in the UK and all across Europe, with Greece and Romania recording as high as 149 Fahrehneit yesterday the 26th.

It's crazy out there right about now for any camera crew, much less a workhorse like the Red. I will sweating for real if I were a part of this.
 
jim and RED,

thank you for the report back. i know it was too much to ask, wanting feedback the night of the 24th, and am happily surprised to wake up in NYC the 26th to such a prompt and timely report.
i have shot in the dry superheat of Extremadura in western spain and the humid heat of monsoon season in SE Asia. these conditions have even affected my mechanical still cameras(Nikon F and FM series and Xpan)
where both motordrives and shutter systems have been off calibration on a few rolls then returned to normal expectations on subsequent rolls under less intense enviromental circumstances. so i am not surprised that issues have arisen on this shake down cruise.
was wondering whether you were going to have the opportunity to get Peltier-cooled models to SS during his shoot schedule, would like to know how they perform under the described circumstances.

also i have cooled an HVX previously using a rain cover and a portable A/C with built in dehumidifier and some small guage HVAC tubing, that the prop guy had. somewhat made a earth suit for the camera. still had to be careful concerning condensation and humidity, but it worked.

thank you for the forthright report and i look forward wrap from today's shoot, just to see if there is more news from the front.

hey is there any chance for a east coast demo once RED reaches production status.

ray.
 
Jannard said:
Don't ask too many detailed questions since we are still changing things around. We'll keep you posted as we go along.

Jim
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Hi Jim (and Jarred),

The information you are sharing here is truly worth its weight in gold to your reputation. It's really amazing for us to be able to follow the RED development process in this way... and "straight talk" will truly build the confidence (and admiration) of everyone who is waiting to shoot with RED far better than fairy tales.

I had the pleasure of meeting Ted in Sydney last week, seeing 'Crossing the Line' on a big screen, and holding a RED One in my hands. Vaporware? Just go tell your critics to eat their shorts.

Best Wishes
Brainstorm
 
Jim,
Thanks for the update. So a peltier device is stuck on the back of the sensor with heatsink/heat pipes being blasted by a fan. Is that the idea?
 
Heat? in spain?
This year is not one of the most hottest summer...
The last 3 years here in spain it was like being at hell!
 
Call Peter Jackson and nab that water cooling jacket from the German machine gun!

In all seriousness, on location in Toronto last week our british Director "went down" for over an hour do to the heat (47C-116.6F). His body was "evacuating" from both ends and we almost lost him for the episode ("Final 24"). Heat can be dangerous; with exhaustion, caffeine and the thrill of the shoot you can forget to take care of yourself. The director came back like a champ and even made a concerted effort to help load-out of the location, against my wishes and frankly, orders.
Kudos to him, he's a champ, and hes going to love this camera.
 
british Director "went down" for over an hour do to the heat (47C-116.6F)
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This is very common in Bollywood, India, where the 116+ Degrees and extreme humidity is very common at least for 6 months in a year.

How is REDone is going to survive such battle?
If RED can manage with Peltier, how are the battery power affected?, Can we run RED on direct DC power?
 
Well, I was plannning on taking my two Red's to Saudi Arabia, as that is where the bulk of my work is. I sure do hope that this overheating issue gets solved to the point where I CAN take a Red into 120 degree (100 is nothing when you have shot in a Saudi summer!) heat and continue to shoot without problems. Hmmmmm......
 
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