$1299 Seiki UHDTV 50" SE50UY04 - Bought it today

[stephenv2]

I was going to take pics but I still can't figure out how to turn off burn in mode. Waiting to hear from a engineer in China

 

[Elsie N]

I was going to take pics but I still can't figure out how to turn off burn in mode. Waiting to hear from a engineer in China

I guess un plugging it doesn't reset it to normal operation, huh?

 

[houkouonchi]

I was going to take pics but I still can't figure out how to turn off burn in mode. Waiting to hear from a engineer in China

HAHA. i did that too and freaked. I was like FUCK did I just brick it?. Unplugging it for 10 min did not help. You gotta just turn it off using the power button on the side (yeah remote doesnt work) when it turns back on its normal.

Your welcome =)

Here is a dump of all the edid modelines from the display:

root@dekabutsu: 12:03 PM :~#  x=0; y=0; cat /var/log/Xorg.4.log | grep -i source:\ edid -B3 -7 | while read line; do y=$(($y +1)); check=`echo "$line" | grep -c '\-\-'`; if [ $y -eq 1 ]; then echo header > /root/seiki_modes/mode_0.txt; fi; if [ $check -eq 1 ]; then x=$(($x+1)); fi; echo "$line" >> /root/seiki_modes/mode_$x.txt fi; done; for file in /root/seiki_modes/*.txt; do res=`head -3  $file | tail -n 1 | cut -d'"' -f2`; details=`head -4  $file | tail -n 1 | awk '{print "# "$6$7$8$9$10$11}'`; pc=`head -6  $file | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $9}'`; h1=`head -7  $file | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $9$10}' | sed 's/,/ /g'`; h2=`head -8  $file | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $9$10}' | sed 's/,/ /g'`; v1=`head -9  $file | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $9$10}' | sed 's/,/ /g'`; v2=`head -10  $file | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $9$10}' | sed 's/,/ /g'`; hpol=`head -11  $file | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $9}' | cut -d'/' -f1`; vpol=`head -11  $file | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $9}' | cut -d'/' -f2`; echo $details; echo Modeline \"$res\" $pc $h1 $h2 $v1 $v2 $hpol"hsync" $vpol"vsync"; echo; done
# 1280x720@60Hz
Modeline "1280x720" 74.25 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

# 720x576@50Hz
Modeline "720x576" 13.50 720 732 795 864 576 580 586 624 -hsync -vsync

# 720x576@50Hz
Modeline "720x576" 13.50 720 732 795 864 576 580 586 624 -hsync -vsync

# 720x576@50Hz
Modeline "720x576" 27.00 720 732 796 864 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync

# 720x576@50Hz
Modeline "720x576" 27.00 720 732 796 864 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync

# 1280x720@50Hz
Modeline "1280x720" 74.25 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

# 1280x720@60Hz
Modeline "1280x720" 74.18 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

# 1920x1080@50Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 74.25 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 +hsync +vsync

# 1920x1080@60Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 74.18 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 +hsync +vsync

# 1920x1080@50Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 148.50 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

# 1920x1080@60Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 148.35 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

# 1440x900@60Hz
Modeline "1440x900" 106.50 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync

# 1920x1080@24Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 74.16 1920 2558 2602 2750 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

# 1280x960@60Hz
Modeline "1280x960" 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync

# 640x480@60Hz
Modeline "640x480" 25.17 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync

# 640x480@72Hz
Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 656 696 832 480 481 484 520 -hsync -vsync

# 640x480@75Hz
Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync

# 800x600@60Hz
Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync

# 800x600@72Hz
Modeline "800x600" 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync

# 800x600@75Hz
Modeline "800x600" 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync

# 1024x768@60Hz
Modeline "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync

# 1024x768@70Hz
Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync

# 720x576@50Hz
Modeline "720x576" 27.00 720 732 796 864 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync

# 1024x768@75Hz
Modeline "1024x768" 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync

# 3840x2160@30Hz
Modeline "3840x2160" 296.70 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 +hsync +vsync

# 3840x2160@25Hz
Modeline "3840x2160" 297.00 3840 4896 4984 5280 2160 2168 2178 2250 +hsync +vsync

# 3840x2160@24Hz
Modeline "3840x2160" 296.75 3840 5116 5204 5500 2160 2168 2178 2250 +hsync +vsync

# 1920x1080@60Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 74.25 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 +hsync +vsync

# 1920x1080@50Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 74.25 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 +hsync +vsync

# 1280x720@50Hz
Modeline "1280x720" 74.25 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

# 720x480@60Hz
Modeline "720x480" 13.50 720 739 801 858 480 488 494 524 -hsync -vsync

# 720x480@60Hz
Modeline "720x480" 13.50 720 739 801 858 480 488 494 524 -hsync -vsync

# 720x480@60Hz
Modeline "720x480" 27.00 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

# 720x480@60Hz
Modeline "720x480" 27.00 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

 

[Derek Morrison]

Does anyone know how to set the video curve settings?

 

[stephenv2]

HAHA. i did that too and freaked. I was like FUCK did I just brick it?. Unplugging it for 10 min did not help. You gotta just turn it off using the power button on the side (yeah remote doesnt work) when it turns back on its normal.

Your welcome =)

You are the man. Own you a beer.

 

[stephenv2]

Problem - bug or defect/return

Problem - bug or defect/return

Okay, now that burn-in mode is off, here's the problem I was trying to troubleshoot. I'm getting problems with 4K signals, both from Samsung Blu-Ray and from PC. Tried multiple inputs and multiple cables (different brands 1.4a cables).

Problem appeared after a few hours of use, so I suspect I need to return it unless some has an idea. What happens is signal splits into flickering quads.

EDIT: Not sure why image link is not working but open in new tab and it works.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I wanna play too... Looks like mine is here in town according to tracking info, so I'm expecting it tomorrow or friday.

 

[Neil W. Smith]

Some screen grabs of 4K images on SEIKI ... 1 of 2

Some screen grabs of 4K images on SEIKI ... 1 of 2

Short answer ... NO ... tried that last night ... had a DP to HDMI cable into HDMI port #1 and HDMI to HDMI into port #3 running off a TITAN on a PC and could not get any kind of signal to display out of the DP cable ... HDMI to HDMI worked just fine at 3840x2160 @ 30HZ ... also, looks to me like the panel is only 6 bit with 8 bit dithering or maybe 8 bit with 10 bit dithering (but doubt it).

On a Mac with a Quadro K5000 could not get a 3840x2160 signal to display on either the DP or HDMI output ... you can't change refresh rates on a Mac.

Neil

Quick update on developments this morning and some pixs:

1) got DaVinci Resolve running on a PC but can not get the SEIKI to display the 3840x2160 signal coming out of the BlackMagic 4K Extreme DeckLink card - tried all kinds of combinations but no luck.

2) The GTX TITAN drives the panel just fine .... can play 4K Uncompressed QuickTimes in QT Player no problem ... UHD rez images look great.

3) can also play Resolve in 4K on the SEIKI out of the TITAN ... in full screen 4K mode the images look stunning.

So the issues seems to be getting the correct refresh rate (not Resolve frame rate) coming out of the BMD 4K DeckLink card - has any one else ahd any luck with the 4K Extreme?

Here's some pixs I took with my iPad Mini .... the footage is from a 5K EPIC feature rendered out in Resolve at 3840x2160:

Neil

 

[houkouonchi]

Okay, now that burn-in mode is off, here's the problem I was trying to troubleshoot. I'm getting problems with 4K signals, both from Samsung Blu-Ray and from PC. Tried multiple inputs and multiple cables (different brands 1.4a cables).

Problem appeared after a few hours of use, so I suspect I need to return it unless some has an idea. What happens is signal splits into flickering quads.

I know the panel is driven via 4 LVDS links so maybe there is a problem there? I am not sure if the LVDS links are quadrants or not though.

 

[Neil W. Smith]

Some more screen grabs of 4K images on SEIKI ... 2 of 2

Some more screen grabs of 4K images on SEIKI ... 2 of 2

The other cool thing we did this afternoon is get our favorite color calibrator to come in and tweak the SEIKI ... David Webb is a genius when it comes to accurately profiling plasmas, LCDs and OLEDS ... he works with all the big post houses in LA ... David quickly got his spectroradiometer into action and put up his charts .... the bad news is that the panel is not perfect but the good news is that for the price point it is pretty damn good! .... the colorimetry is actually surprisingly accurate ... once David had finished tweaking the SEIKI and we put up the EPIC footage in Resolve in full screen we both took a deep breath and said WOW ... not that you'd do mission critical color grading on this monitor but as an accurate 4K client monitor that's dialed in to what you're seeing on your grading monitor it is pretty damn sweet.

If you want David to come and tweak your Seiki (and your psyche at the same time) give us a bell and we'll organize a visit.

We will be demoing the calibrated SEIKI at our 4k MADE EASY Training Day this coming Saturday (April 27th) on the Lot in West Hollywood ... if you want to see how easy and cost-effective it is to push 4K through a data and color pipeline sign up on our website on the Events page.

In the meantime here's some more pixs of the SEIKI and David in action:

Neil

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

The other cool thing we did this afternoon is get our favorite color calibrator to come in and tweak the SEIKI ... David Webb is a genius when it comes to accurately profiling plasmas, LCDs and OLEDS ... he works with all the big post houses in LA ... David quickly got his spectroradiometer into action and put up his charts .... the bad news is that the panel is not perfect but the good news is that for the price point it is pretty damn good! .... the colorimetry is actually surprisingly accurate ... once David had finished tweaking the SEIKI and we put up the EPIC footage in Resolve in full screen we both took a deep breath and said WOW ... not that you'd do mission critical color grading on this monitor but as an accurate 4K client monitor that's dialed in to what you're seeing on your grading monitor it is pretty damn sweet.

Now that is some seriously good news.

 

[Bill Sepaniak]

... So the issues seems to be getting the correct refresh rate (not Resolve frame rate) coming out of the BMD 4K DeckLink card - has any one else ahd any luck with the 4K Extreme?

Have you contacted BMD? Sort of a bummer if it doesn't play nice-w-Resolve and the 4K Extreme card. Personally, I am going with an AJA Kona3G-w-a SDI to HDMI 4K mini converter.
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Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8

 

[stephenv2]

I know the panel is driven via 4 LVDS links so maybe there is a problem there? I am not sure if the LVDS links are quadrants or not though.

Possible - I'm guessing that circuit or software may be bad on my unit as without changing anything it corrected itself once then went back.

 

[Neil W. Smith]

Now that is some seriously good news.

Seriously good news, Jeff .... the blacks are very clean and lots of detail ... the skin tones were lovely - very natural ... and the detail in the wides stunning ... EPIC plus SEIKI is going to be a killer combination .... hopefully you'll get yours soon and let us know what you think ... out of the box it was pretty damn good but after David worked his magic it was actually surprisingly pleasing to the eye.

Where are you based? ... for some reason I thought you ran out of NY ... if you're anywhere near West Hollywood this Saturday you should drop in on our 4K Training session and see the SEIKI in action next to the EIZO CG 276 and the 2K DLP.

Picture of the TV showing the HDMI resolution ... damn spiffing stuff.

Neil

 

[stephenv2]

the colorimetry is actually surprisingly accurate ... once David had finished tweaking the SEIKI and we put up the EPIC footage in Resolve in full screen we both took a deep breath and said WOW ... not that you'd do mission critical color grading on this monitor but as an accurate 4K client monitor that's dialed in to what you're seeing on your grading monitor it is pretty damn sweet.

Great news - willing to share your settings after calibration? I will be posted mine shortly from just quick eyeballing with WOW disk.

 

[stephenv2]

And it's working again - did not change anything again. I suspect it's a bad unit but will give it a few day before returning.

Here's my numbers from a quick eyeball WOW calibration (given that TINT is not adjustable and this was before discovery of service menu)

COLOR TEMP = WARM
CONTRAST = 92
BRIGHTNESS = 28
COLOR = 44
SHARPNESS = 32

 

[Jamie_Guy]

Does anyone know or think that a New iMac full spec from thunderbolt to Hdmi adapter will work with this unit?

 

[houkouonchi]

Does anyone know or think that a New iMac full spec from thunderbolt to Hdmi adapter will work with this unit?

Like linux the mac OS nvidia drivers are borked. It might work if its non-nvidia but it definitely will not work if its nvidia.

 

[stephenv2]

I figured out the problem at least with my unit is related to sleep mode. When it goes to sleep connected to the PC (via HDMI of GTX 660) it comes up "not support" error message (one of my typos in menus). Changing refresh rate fixes it. Does not matter which refresh (24 or 30hz) is set. I'm not sure if that's related to the Quad issue - and if this is a faulty unit or a bug in all units.

 

[Bill Sepaniak]

... David Webb is a genius when it comes to accurately profiling plasmas, LCDs and OLEDS ... he works with all the big post houses in LA ... David quickly got his spectroradiometer into action and put up his charts ....

If you are in the LA area and want to contact David about a calibration:

http://www.solvengineering.com/about.html


________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8