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RPPs in NYC

I just checked out Marks RPP's yesterday.

I'm really impressed, I was expecting alot less considering the price. Now I can't really understand why you would rent or buy Ultra Primes by comparison.

I find this hard to believe but, I am definitely a skeptic, I'm just not seeing the disadvantages yet.

IBloom

:-D ah yeah!
 
To be fair, there are a lot of qualities to the Ultra Primes. I'm sure the SALT will have some interesting results. From our testing the UPs excellent resolution, contrast and color accuracy. And on a basic practical standpoint, there is a far greater range of focal lengths available, including many wide angles (the RPPs currently stop at 25mm).

It's great to be excited about new glass, but the current standys are great as well.
 
To be fair, there are a lot of qualities to the Ultra Primes. I'm sure the SALT will have some interesting results. From our testing the UPs excellent resolution, contrast and color accuracy. And on a basic practical standpoint, there is a far greater range of focal lengths available, including many wide angles (the RPPs currently stop at 25mm).

It's great to be excited about new glass, but the current standys are great as well.

No I absolutely agree, and keep in mind, my impressions are without thorough testing.
I was thinking about it on the train today and obviously focal lengths are a real consideration for some shows. Another big consideration, for someone like me considering investing, is how the mechanics stand the test of time. Very hard to determine that. Cookes have a very distinctive bouquet for example, and that's something important to me as well. Buut...

But basically when you consider price (And always with Red is has been Price/Performance) it's hard to see the disadvantages. That's all I'm saying.

I am surprised.

IBloom
 
Another big consideration, for someone like me considering investing, is how the mechanics stand the test of time. Very hard to determine that.

Exactly! I want my RPPs to last 20 years. I asked Jim about that and he seemed to think they would. Also, he said they designed them for economical repair, being of an internal modular design (as he described to me at NAB)
 
currently is just a fleeting moment ....

Mark, what are your thoughts on long term viability/usefulness of RPPs if Red is about to do a FF35 push beginning of next year? Their Monstro is only sized for FF. And yes I know about cropping, but it seems they want to drive the market to FF
 
Mark, what are your thoughts on long term viability/usefulness of RPPs if Red is about to do a FF35 push beginning of next year? Their Monstro is only sized for FF. And yes I know about cropping, but it seems they want to drive the market to FF

I think most folks will be cropping on the FF35 unless LOTS of new lens choices appear really fast. I expect to be shooting with RPPs for long, long time. And if I am pleasantly surprised by a bunch of FF35 lens choices in the near future ... I'm sure I'll be happy I'm not stuck making lease payments on S4s.
 
... it seems they want to drive the market to FF
Do you think? Or are they adding FF sensors simply as a part of the DSMC puzzle?
My interest in a Scarlet FF35 over the S35 is strictly about having my Canon lenses behave in the manner to which I have long been accustomed. I bought a cropped DSLR when they were new, and would never choose to go back to one.
 
Do you think? Or are they adding FF sensors simply as a part of the DSMC puzzle?
My interest in a Scarlet FF35 over the S35 is strictly about having my Canon lenses behave in the manner to which I have long been accustomed. I bought a cropped DSLR when they were new, and would never choose to go back to one.

I feel you are right with your answer. Otherwise Red would have come out with FF35 lenses instead of the Pro Primes. I believe most people will shoot 5k or 4.5k with professional cine glass which they already know and love.
 
I feel you are right with your answer. Otherwise Red would have come out with FF35 lenses instead of the Pro Primes. I believe most people will shoot 5k or 4.5k with professional cine glass which they already know and love.

I totally agree: light-loss and depth of field are issues that make fullframe a difficult format for cinema. More than 5K sounds awesome but comes at a price.

IBloom
 
Mark, Great stuff. Only one problem..... It seems that the video stops just as we get to the lingerie part. I am sure that is just a mistake..... Please tell me it is just a mistake? :)
 
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