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Canon mount for the RED ONE...

In fact I never have worked as an AC, but is the situation really so "black and white" as you suggest? I believe many of the older PL-mount lenses do have some visible breathing, do they not?
 
B&W and RED all over

B&W and RED all over

No, many lenses breath to some extent, including some very new ones.
You would rather they didn't on a narrative film shoot. That's why people pay $$$$$$$ for Cooke and Zeiss for feature film productions. For music videos or weddings, it would not be a big deal.
 
I'm considering cancelling my Birger order. Has any info come out about the Element Technica smart mount?
 
breathing

breathing

1. Because of the overscanning of the sensor, can't the breathing be fixed in post very easily and very accurately?

It seems like a couple of minutes in After Effects if the breathing is notieceable.

2. Someone complained that Zeiss lenses were also breathing, and more so than a Nikon slr lense. I don't know the make and model, but isn't a little breathing considered acceptable? Do audiences even notice?

Given option 1, I think I'll save the $345,000, at least for my first attempts...
 
khmuse said:
I will be in contact with current owner's to explain what can be done (and what the performance limitations are) working within the constraints of the adjustable PL mount. I am sure we will come up with something that will meet everyone's requirements.

Not to worry, we will support all customers who have our mount. We have been manufacturing products for over 20 years (and I have been in manufacturing for over 30) so we won't disappear just because we discontinued one product.

For those that have given their words of encouragement I thank each and every one of you.

Good shooting everyone,

Kevin
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Kevin i am sorry for this we have supported you too much from early begining

Since first time that you have declared about the mount

i am from the first people who had pay for it .

You know that i have received my mount with missing ( Spring )..it is only a spring

Edit : i have contacted kevin and he promissed to send it soon , i hope so
 
mail4joeg said:
can't the breathing be fixed in post very easily and very accurately?
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Unfortunately, no.

Since a proper focus pull accelerates and decelerates at an unknown speed, and probably does some minor speed changes along the way, it is not a speedy process at all. The end result will probably look even weirder, as there will be some positive and negative breathing compensation.

There are some rumors that the Birger mount might (and I have to stress the might) internally compensate for breathing. Now that would be not just great, but amazingly awesome.
 
Bassam, my emails to Kevin have gone unanswered as well. Even as recently as yesterday. And, by the way, I don't have iris control on my Muse Electronics Canon FD mount either. Had to physically alter my FD lenses so they are in permanent "stopped down" mode now.

Seems to me like the only fully working third-party mount right now is Underdahl's modded RED Nikon F mount.
 
Bassam, Kevin is a great guy and has been very responsive in the past. He must be too busy or something.

I actually wrote him to see if there is a way to modify my Canon FD mount to take Leica R lenses instead. That's when I decided that the real solution to my problems lies in the P+S Technik IMS mount, VFS Impero and Inclino solution.

Still, I wanted to see if Kevin's mount could be converted to a Leica R mount, to use between now and when I get the other stuff.
 
Martin Weiss said:
Unfortunately, no.

Since a proper focus pull accelerates and decelerates at an unknown speed, and probably does some minor speed changes along the way, it is not a speedy process at all. The end result will probably look even weirder, as there will be some positive and negative breathing compensation.

There are some rumors that the Birger mount might (and I have to stress the might) internally compensate for breathing. Now that would be not just great, but amazingly awesome.
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Breathing compensation on birger would be in conjunction with a separate zoom motor and ONLY be possible with zooms. The idea is that since EF lenses give precise focus and zoom position data to the mount it would be possible to have the software control the zoom motor to precisely (slightly) zoom to offset the known breathing characteristics of a particular zoom lens.

BTW the info would also make it much easier for a software post solution as well.
 
Tico said:
Bassam, Kevin is a great guy and has been very responsive in the past. He must be too busy or something.

I actually wrote him to see if there is a way to modify my Canon FD mount to take Leica R lenses instead. That's when I decided that the real solution to my problems lies in the P+S Technik IMS mount, VFS Impero and Inclino solution.

Still, I wanted to see if Kevin's mount could be converted to a Leica R mount, to use between now and when I get the other stuff.
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i hope he will reply you , i only need the missing thing . i don't want to modify or anything ealse ..
 
Martin Weiss said:
Is the ET mount still in the pipeline?

It seems that Birger starts shipping next week, thus the ET would need to have some killer features that Eric hasn't thought of. Or a killer price?
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Glad to hear that ET is on it. Two things that I would be patient for:

1 - ease of interchangeability
2 - ET's very good customer service

After all the drama, I'm content to watch these developments. If Birger proves to be as good as the prototype looked at NAB, and if the noise about repairs and warranties and follow-up service is minimal, I'd re-up my order. Competition is a good thing.
 
Martin Weiss said:
Is the ET mount still in the pipeline?

It seems that Birger starts shipping next week, thus the ET would need to have some killer features that Eric hasn't thought of. Or a killer price?
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How do I get in touch with Eric? I tried the website (no luck...) and e-mail too... He doesn't seam to come here that often either... :waaa:

I hope I can get his mount - I liked what I have seen - even if it meant to void my warranty I dare to say... But I hope he gets things sorted out with RED... :w00t:

Jannard said:
We continue to work with Birger to get that mount compatible with our system. I am sure we will get there.
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Or am I asking too much?
 
I'm pretty sure it's sorted now--RED approved the latest version of the Birger mount so that RED's warranty will remain intact.

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