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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Red Cooke Ad in AC

Finner,

after that at the end what you will see then you gonna "glue" yourself on a floor and screem :).

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Question - somewhere on this forum I recall seeing a lens shootout between zeiss and (I think) cooke etc - it was a shot of some props (like hesson sacks and lanterns) on a table - can't seem to find it now - anyone else remember this?
 
This tread is buried somewhere at the forum archive but I have two samples from this test on my server,

you could download/drag-drop at your desktop and blow up in PS to see better.

cooke-50mm_crop.jpg

Crop from Cooke S4 50mm

zeiss-50mm_crop.jpg

Crop from Zeiss 50mm (don't remember which type, maybe Ultra Prime, not sure).
 
The Third Man said:
This tread is buried somewhere at the forum archive but I have two samples from this test on my server,

you could download/drag-drop at your desktop and blow up in PS to see better.

cooke-50mm_crop.jpg

Crop from Cooke S4 50mm

zeiss-50mm_crop.jpg

Crop from Zeiss 50mm (don't remember which type, maybe Ultra Prime, not sure).
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This was also shot with my Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L mounted on Manny's RED with the first Birger mount focused via a usb to the laptop.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
 
Beautiful!

Has for every lens manufacturer, Canon, has a distinct look, very sharp, and a bit on the warmer side, unlike Zeiss which is very sharp and cooler, while Cooke are less sharp, warm and soft.

I personally have been using Canon L glass for many years now, and look very much forward on getting my Birger mount to use them on one of my RED's.


Many people are in for a big pleasing surprise when they will start using Canon L glass on their RED's.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
 
KETCH ROSSI said:
This was also shot with my Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L mounted on Manny's RED with the first Birger mount focused via a usb to the laptop.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
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Oh, I remember that day all too well. The night before I got an email to ask if I could bring a computer along and could I make a prototype lens mount work. I had to rewrite the install script on site, but did get it to work in the end.

Fun stuff...

Kevin
 
Cooke S4's are very fine lenses and worth the prices if you seek tack sharp images as part of your project's aesthetic.

The only problem, as I recall from a thread when these first came out, is that Cooke increased the price by $5K for the Red branded versions. $5K for a paint job.

Some revolution.

Michael
 
Yes Kevin,

and fortunately to that we were able to shoot the Canon's.

Michael, not only that, but if you were to purchase the lenses offered individually they will add up to the same amount offered as a RED package, yeah, some revolutionary and rebellious package that is.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
 
KETCH ROSSI said:
This was also shot with my Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L mounted on Manny's RED with the first Birger mount focused via a usb to the laptop.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
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Does Birger make anything like a "jog box" or remote that can drive the EOS mount without a laptop? (I wonder if red would have any interest at all in adding support to the firmware so the camera can control it directly?) My other question is, on the electronc focus lenses with the "virtual" manual focus ring, does the power from the Birger mount allows you to operate the focus manually on the lens?
 
Sure, if it works reliably. (I wasn't even thinking that big. I was thinking something wired.)

KETCH, does the focus ring on the lens work once the Birger is powered up? Another question is about the way the control signals work. For example, is it possible to feed in "5 feet" or whatever, and have the lens jump to that focus, or are the signals simple "step forwared" "step back" kind of thing?

I bring it up since the "virtual" focus ring on some of the L lenses has always put me off a little. (I have the 85mm USM II) But on a Cine camera it strikes me as something that could be a big problem. I mean, the position of the "ring" has nothing to do with the internal position of the focus. It's like a prosumer cam-corder in that respect. That could really drive an AC nuts. But if they could see the actual focus...

I guess I'm just interested to know what the full capabilities of the Birger mount/system actually are.
 
This particular shoot tucked place several months ago, much earlier then LART.

The Birger mount that Erik generously sent, was a total prototype, and only worked some what, thanks to Kevin and the software writing He deed.

Aperture Values were absent all together and all lenses tested were shot wide open, the 50 1.2 and the 16-35 II were the ones tested as the 85 1.2 II could not work at all without electronic connections.

So all the focus was just about a guess work, that worked.

Now as the finalized Birger EF mount is about to ship, we will see what we have been waiting for, I trust we are in for big surprises, good surprises control of the electronics in all EF lenses and wireless controlled, Bluetooth.


Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
 
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