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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

DSMC Fan 2.0 Top Fan Not Spinning

Tyler Besh

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I just installed the 2.0 kit on the Epic and the top fans don't seem to spin...ever. I'm honestly not sure if they should but at 80% I'm assuming they would right?

https://youtu.be/bqfTF70I9iw

Can't seem to find any examples of the top fan in operation.
 
Wait... You're the dude who can't update his firmware, right? And it's one of the earliest releases?

Check with your bombsquad rep (or the TopFan installation guide), but you might need to be on a specific firmware and above for the top fan to actually work.

(The front fan 2.0 would still work on older firmwares because all it is is switching to a fan that pushes more air, but still works via the same controls/voltage regulation.)
 
Wait... You're the dude who can't update his firmware, right? And it's one of the earliest releases?

Check with your bombsquad rep (or the TopFan installation guide), but you might need to be on a specific firmware and above for the top fan to actually work.

(The front fan 2.0 would still work on older firmwares because all it is is switching to a fan that pushes more air, but still works via the same controls/voltage regulation.)

That is funny Mike! you are brutal Manos!!!!
 
That is funny Mike! you are brutal Manos!!!!

Hah! It's not like that; I may be wrong, but I seem to recall a thread where Tyler has tried a bunch of times to update his camera's firmware (even incrementally), but apparently it isn't updating. And I'm pretty sure the camera needs to be like fw6.0+ for the top fan to even be recognized.

Before remembering that, I did write out this:

Mike P. said:
They always spin, just super low when not needed.

Make sure the fans spin freely while powered off. You may need to take it out and try gently spinning the fans with your finger from the bottom (as the fans are exposed underneath). I had a top fan that seemed to stick on the right fan (it could rotate via finger, but it didn't feel as smooth as the left side), so I blew some compressed air in it and a small twig blasted out.

When one side doesn't spin, they both don't and it was perplexing because of how it did turn via finger, it just didn't spin easily/freely (as in, very little debris/resistance can prevent the fans from turning). Anyway, after twig removal, it was aces!

Other than that, clean the contacts if you have some contact cleaner. Actually, if you try compressed air, and that doesn't work, try some compressed electronic/contact cleaner into the fan motors... might be worth giving it a blast of that as well.

Hah, definitely not trying to be savage. Lol.
 
Hah! It's not like that; I may be wrong, but I seem to recall a thread where Tyler has tried a bunch of times to update his camera's firmware (even incrementally), but apparently it isn't updating. And I'm pretty sure the camera needs to be like fw6.0+ for the top fan to even be recognized.

Before remembering that, I did write out this:



Hah, definitely not trying to be savage. Lol.

Haha no worries guys I'm shameless. And yes I still can't update. Sadly I looked and the connection seems to be burned or knocked off. It's missing a part of the metal connectors so I'm assuming this is why it's not recognizing it at all.

Talked to repa about both issues (firmware and fan) and as usual not much they can do because it cant be sent in anymore.

I'm gonna do some research and maybe find a way to DIY fix the fan connection component...thing. it'll be another fun experiment I don't mind doing on this classic guy. Seems like I can do anything to it and it just keeps going haha.
 
Oh, so much fun finding info like this, years later.
I just installed the Fan Kit and notice my Scarlet would reach 87 before shutting down.
I managed to upgrade my firmware to the latest but I don't think it sees the fan.
I'm still getting the Fan error (new fan available message) even after a Hard Restore.
 
Oh, so much fun finding info like this, years later.
I just installed the Fan Kit and notice my Scarlet would reach 87 before shutting down.
I managed to upgrade my firmware to the latest but I don't think it sees the fan.
I'm still getting the Fan error (new fan available message) even after a Hard Restore.

Two things to try; while it's off, and with the top and bottom fan removed, shine a flashlight through the heatsink to make sure it isn't obviously obstructed, and second, (again with fans removed/while off) try blowing compressed air through the Scarlet-X's heatsink in the reverse direction (down the top/out the front) to see if it knocks loose a bunch of dust bunnies...

The other thing I'd suggest trying is to put the top fan on your Dragon. That'll let you know for sure if the second top-fan you're putting in your Scarlet actually works or not.
 
Did you do the "rediscover hardware" procedure from the camera menu?

Sorry that's what I meant by Hard restore :)
That didn't do anything.
I am hoping to talk to Joshua first before I attempt anything else.

Great knowing I have a DRAGON for back up :)
 
Two things to try; while it's off, and with the top and bottom fan removed, shine a flashlight through the heatsink to make sure it isn't obviously obstructed, and second, (again with fans removed/while off) try blowing compressed air through the Scarlet-X's heatsink in the reverse direction (down the top/out the front) to see if it knocks loose a bunch of dust bunnies...
Thanks, Mike, I tried this and not much came out. Really dirty in that area, tried to clean it carefully with a Q-tip.

The other thing I'd suggest trying is to put the top fan on your Dragon. That'll let you know for sure if the second top-fan you're putting in your Scarlet actually works or not.
I haven't got that far, however, the newer TOP FAN works with the older FRONT FAN (original Scarlet).
After a black-shade and record test with different fan settings, so far so good.
I will attempt to put the newer FRONT FAN back on and see what happens.
I will only let it go hot once just in case.

Thanks again everyone for your input.
 
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