Resolve, how to affect a batch of clips?

[Christopher Barrett]

Question: Let's say I've got a whole bunch of clips in one room graded to match each other. Not the whole film, but one large scene. Can I isolate that group of clips to apply a new grade to them on top of whats already been done? If I want to make the whole scene a little cooler?

Do I do this with a "group"?

Thanks!
CB

 

[Steve Sherrick]

yes, you can do it with groups and there are different options for once clips are grouped for doing relative changes, etc. Just make sure you have a full understanding of groups, linking, batch copy, etc. I highly recommend the Ripple Training for Resolve with Alexis. It's very thorough. and very cheap $79

 

[jake blackstone]

yes, you can do it with groups and there are different options for once clips are grouped for doing relative changes, etc. Just make sure you have a full understanding of groups, linking, batch copy, etc. I highly recommend the Ripple Training for Resolve with Alexis. It's very thorough. and very cheap $79

Well, not exactly...
In order to be able to group range of shots, all shots MUST have same nodes. If even one of the shots have different nodes it will not work. This had been pointed out to BM a long time ago. Hopefully V9 will fix this.
Meanwhile, you could use "track" tab to add an overall adjustment. Unfortunately, that is not what OP wants, as it will affect the whole timeline.
Ripple grade could be the answer, but, unless I'm mistaken, it only correctly works with the Resolve panel.

 

[M Most]

Well, not exactly...
In order to be able to group range of shots, all shots MUST have same nodes. If even one of the shots have different nodes it will not work. This had been pointed out to BM a long time ago. Hopefully V9 will fix this.
Meanwhile, you could use "track" tab to add an overall adjustment. Unfortunately, that is not what OP wants, as it will affect the whole timeline.
Ripple grade could be the answer, but, unless I'm mistaken, it only correctly works with the Resolve panel.

Or you could just add one node at the end of the node tree to one of the shots, do the correction on it, then copy that node to the end of the node tree on each of the other shots. Even though that would be a manual operation, it can be done very quickly via a drag and drop operation by using the "display node tree" function on the source shot.

 

[jake blackstone]

Or you could just add one node at the end of the node tree to one of the shots, do the correction on it, then copy that node to the end of the node tree on each of the other shots. Even though that would be a manual operation, it can be done very quickly via a drag and drop operation by using the "display node tree" function on the source shot.

Or BM could just fix this and another silliness, like the inability to copy a grade to multiple events...

 

[Marc Wielage]

Meanwhile, you could use "track" tab to add an overall adjustment. Unfortunately, that is not what OP wants, as it will affect the whole timeline.

You can create a new event and turn the tracking correction on and off at a scene change. I've done that in rare cases where a producer wanted to change a lengthy scene (like bumping up the saturation 5%) and then going back to normal. Takes mere seconds to do.

 

[jake blackstone]

You can create a new event and turn the tracking correction on and off at a scene change. I've done that in rare cases where a producer wanted to change a lengthy scene (like bumping up the saturation 5%) and then going back to normal. Takes mere seconds to do.

What's a "tracking correction"? I'm not sure I follow.

 

[Christopher Barrett]

I think he's talking about doing a track correction, which will apply to the whole session and then using dynamics to limit it to the selected scenes. Smart. Will try that.

 

[M Most]

Or BM could just fix this and another silliness, like the inability to copy a grade to multiple events...

I believe you can do that (that's what "ripple absolute" would be for). You just can't do it without the DaVinci panels.

I'm sure a lot of these things will be addressed over time. But saying "they could just fix this" doesn't really help anyone who's asking about something they need to do today.

 

[jake blackstone]

I believe you can do that (that's what "ripple absolute" would be for). You just can't do it without the DaVinci panels.

I'm pretty sure, I said this already pretty much verbatim "Ripple grade could be the answer, but, unless I'm mistaken, it only correctly works with the Resolve panel."

I'm sure a lot of these things will be addressed over time. But saying "they could just fix this" doesn't really help anyone who's asking about something they need to do today.

I didn't know I needed to explain this, nevertheless, pointing out why particular approach, such as group grading adjustment may not work in this particular example can be as important as coming out with a workaround. But whatever...
Personally I choose not to wait for BM to address these very fundamental shortcomings of Resolve software. I prefer to just use the software, without explaining and apologizing to my clients why I can't do some basic things, like temporal based noise reduction, proper sharpening, timeline versioning or temporal interpolated speed changes to name a few. Until then I will avoid Resolve, unless I absolutely must use it, like in case of remote grading, thank you...

 

[jake blackstone]

I think he's talking about doing a track correction, which will apply to the whole session and then using dynamics to limit it to the selected scenes. Smart. Will try that.

I'm pretty sure Mike's suggestion is much faster to apply. And this way there will be no confusion as to where Track correction is active.

 

[M Most]

Personally I choose not to wait for BM to address these very fundamental shortcomings of Resolve software. I prefer to just use the software, without explaining and apologizing to my clients why I can't do some basic things, like temporal based noise reduction, proper sharpening, timeline versioning or temporal interpolated speed changes to name a few. Until then I will avoid Resolve, unless I absolutely must use it, like in case of remote grading, thank you...

None of those are shortcomings of grading software in general, because I can't think of other grading programs that have them either. Unless there's "temporal interpolated speed changes", "temporal based noise reduction", or "timeline versioning" available in Baselight, Lustre, Scratch, and Speedgrade that I don't know about. My point is that you're talking about features that are generally either editing or visual effects features, not grading features. In the future, some of these programs may become a bit more generalized as finishing tools. Right now, they're not, so expecting them to have features that are not part of their core purpose is not realistic.

 

[Gunleik Groven]

Speedchanges is supposed to come in 9x

Looking forweard to see how that performs...

Bit OT, but: Actually I am by now retty impressed over the comforming capacities in Resolve (while being a little underwhelmed originally).
It's getting smooth as silk, while not yet really fast.

And the BM team is really responsive on most kinds of feature requests and suggestions and fixes.

But I may be the only feeling this way

 

[jake blackstone]

None of those are shortcomings of grading software in general, because I can't think of other grading programs that have them either. Unless there's "temporal interpolated speed changes", "temporal based noise reduction", or "timeline versioning" available in Baselight, Lustre, Scratch, and Speedgrade that I don't know about. My point is that you're talking about features that are generally either editing or visual effects features, not grading features. In the future, some of these programs may become a bit more generalized as finishing tools. Right now, they're not, so expecting them to have features that are not part of their core purpose is not realistic.

Then you should check out Filmmaster. All features described had been present in it for quite a while. I'm pretty sure for a couple of years now Lustre too has an excellent temporal based noise reduction.
I had mentioned in the past, that you and I operate in different markets with different requirements. What you find "generalized as finishing tools" I find indespensable for the type of color grading I need to perform on daily basis.