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What's the best Jib

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While I wait for delivery of a scarlet, I am keeping busy getting all the gear together for it.
As I can not hire Jibs or dollys where I live, I am wondering what is the best Jib for a scarlet.
So far, my list looks something like this :-

1. http://www.kesslercrane.com/product-p/100016.htm ( about $500 ) which seems to be popular here.

2. http://www.porta-jib.com/explorer.html ( about $1,800 ) which looks strong and has a nice web site and videos.

3. http://www.varizoom.com/product.aspx?productID=VZQUICKJIB&category=QuickJibs ( about $1,200 ) and also seems strong from their pics.

4. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PROAIM-1...ltDomain_0&hash=item414bfadc7b#ht_8238wt_1156 for about $350, which is probably the cheapest.

Seems to me underslung is the most versatile on these Jobs, but I just wonder how smooth I can get the start and stop of any movement with such light weight jibs.
Of course I can always edit out the start and stop frames if they are bumpy, but I like the idea of being able to stay with the subject before or after a move.

Thanks for any good ideas on this.
James
 
James B said:
While I wait for delivery of a scarlet, I am keeping busy getting all the gear together for it.
As I can not hire Jibs or dollys where I live, I am wondering what is the best Jib for a scarlet.
So far, my list looks something like this :-

1. http://www.kesslercrane.com/product-p/100016.htm ( about $500 ) which seems to be popular here.

2. http://www.porta-jib.com/explorer.html ( about $1,800 ) which looks strong and has a nice web site and videos.

3. http://www.varizoom.com/product.aspx?productID=VZQUICKJIB&category=QuickJibs ( about $1,200 ) and also seems strong from their pics.

4. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PROAIM-1...ltDomain_0&hash=item414bfadc7b#ht_8238wt_1156 for about $350, which is probably the cheapest.

Seems to me underslung is the most versatile on these Jobs, but I just wonder how smooth I can get the start and stop of any movement with such light weight jibs.
Of course I can always edit out the start and stop frames if they are bumpy, but I like the idea of being able to stay with the subject before or after a move.

Thanks for any good ideas on this.
James
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I haven't really used any of them on any shoots, but I hear many good things about Kessler. I got to check them out at NAB and they seemed pretty solid, I think I'm going to look into buying one from Kessler in the next few months.
 
I've used my Standard Porta-Jib for 10 years now. It works beautifully every time. I use my heavier R1 and F900/HDX-900 cameras on it. It's counterweighted design keeps it stable at any camera elevation. Can't say enough good things about the Standard version.
 
I'm a huge fan of my Libec. Quick setup and super smooth.
 
seriously for Epic and Scarlet !
http://www.advantajib.com/home.html


The inventor/owner John is an amazing person to deal with.
I had mine customized so it can be a short and quick setup (minutes)
or original pan and tilt hydraulic 10 feet, one person operator setup.
Love that thing and it's price:)

Albert
 
albert rudnicki said:
seriously for Epic and Scarlet !
http://www.advantajib.com/home.html


The inventor/owner John is an amazing person to deal with.
I had mine customized so it can be a short and quick setup (minutes)
or original pan and tilt hydraulic 10 feet, one person operator setup.
Love that thing and it's price:)

Albert
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They need to put higher quality videos hosted though Vimeo or at least YouTube on their site. Those tiny, low quality quicktimes are not cutting it.
 
James B said:
While I wait for delivery of a scarlet, I am keeping busy getting all the gear together for it.
As I can not hire Jibs or dollys where I live, I am wondering what is the best Jib for a scarlet.
So far, my list looks something like this :-

1. http://www.kesslercrane.com/product-p/100016.htm ( about $500 ) which seems to be popular here.
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I have the KC 12/8 and also the pocket Jib ... the price you have is missing the tripod/head and some other bits (for jib's they can get dangerous ... so a super solid tripod/head is required).

I like the pocket jib for shooting in enclosed spaces, where you need to back the camera to a wall or a corner etc ... but it's a bit "springy" when you get heavier setup's on it ... plus you control the pocket jib from where the camera is mainly. It's also really nice for quickly moving to secondary shots in small spaces.

The KC12/8 is great ... real nice controls, it also integrates with the k-flex dolly system (I really like the organic dolly moves you can get with that ... mixing dolly with jib movement). The KC12/8 also has a real smooth feel when controlled back where the weights are.

I haven't used the other systems referenced.
 
Co-sign.. provided you have sticks and a head up to the task, Kessler's a great option. I've had a KC Lite 8.0 for a couple of years and love it.

PatrickFaith said:
I have the KC 12/8 and also the pocket Jib ... the price you have is missing the tripod/head and some other bits (for jib's they can get dangerous ... so a super solid tripod/head is required).

I like the pocket jib for shooting in enclosed spaces, where you need to back the camera to a wall or a corner etc ... but it's a bit "springy" when you get heavier setup's on it ... plus you control the pocket jib from where the camera is mainly. It's also really nice for quickly moving to secondary shots in small spaces.

The KC12/8 is great ... real nice controls, it also integrates with the k-flex dolly system (I really like the organic dolly moves you can get with that ... mixing dolly with jib movement). The KC12/8 also has a real smooth feel when controlled back where the weights are.

I haven't used the other systems referenced.
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albert rudnicki said:
seriously for Epic and Scarlet !
http://www.advantajib.com/home.html


The inventor/owner John is an amazing person to deal with.
I had mine customized so it can be a short and quick setup (minutes)
or original pan and tilt hydraulic 10 feet, one person operator setup.
Love that thing and it's price:)

Albert
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Yep.

John is the shit.

Great deal for the product.
 
Rob Macey said:
I've used my Standard Porta-Jib for 10 years now. It works beautifully every time. I use my heavier R1 and F900/HDX-900 cameras on it. It's counterweighted design keeps it stable at any camera elevation. Can't say enough good things about the Standard version.
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i've had my standard porta jib for about 15 years. Have flown everything from a panavision with a 1000 ft load to an epic. The last jib you will ever buy. More expensive than the others but well worth it.
 
EZFX Jib. I've used this one for just over a year and it's great with the RED ONE.
 
Peter Staubs said:
What about the long valley seven jib

http://www.longvalleyequip.com/sevenjib.php

Its cheaper than many and was used on FX's Louie with a R1 rig...

anyone have thoughts on this one?
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I've used this a few times, and have been very happy, with Epic rigs and DSLR rigs.

If you have 100mm head/stivks its a no brainer. Dead easy to set up, smooth and stable at any load I've given it. Very portable. I've had this on a number of shoots where a larger jib would be untenable.

It is not without flaws. The rental units I've used have had a very wide range of maintenance issues - mostly because people don't treat rentals properly. Also, In testing (not use mind you!!) I can see that with a very heavy load, say an R1 package with a 24-290, the bar would flex ... that will create issues over time. I'd like to be able to lock the rotation, but in practice it's not a big deal.

This is something I am definitely buying. With this in my kit, I can leave heavier jibs and light cranes to rental and be very very satisfied.
 
Nice suggesting so far. Got my brain working.

This is something I'll need to be picking up in the next couple months too. Strongly considering the Kessler Pocket Jib as we'll be shooting in some fairly tight spaces.

I have a CobraCrane Backpacker I purchased a while ago, but it's not suitable for smooth pans with a full Epic/Scarlet.
 
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