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15 Reasons why you shouldn't sell your DSLR for the SCARLET. yet.

PatrickFaith said:
When watching Peter Jackson's Hobbit blog focusing on the epic and 3D, I saw a lot of DSLR's. I don't think you could get more fanatical on RED then Peter Jackson (it cracks me up that he names his RED camera's).
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i haven't noticed, thank you for pointing that out.
 
Daniel Kunz said:
Please guys, please make this forum something welcoming for new members that come here to share their thoughts and opinions.
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First off welcome Daniel..appreciate time/thought you obviously put into your post. Lots of issues with camera/lens overlaps these days.

Unbelievable way to welcome a new Scarlet-x owner into the family..trash his post and tell him to ship off to dvx Luser..uhh dvx User Land.
The guy said he bought a Scarlet-x....but people probably didn't notice since all you guys saw was 5D and then the fangs and claws came out.

Terry VerHaar said:
...The 5D is a good stills camera... so? It pretty much sucks at high quality motion for the broad range of needs a videographer or film maker has...
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Agreed. By today's standards it's quite soft. By Sony standards of year 2000 it's not bad.

But someone should have warned Relativity Media cause they just paid 13 million for the Navy Seal movie w/5 million budget that is 80% 5D
and will put out $30 million in ads to promote it. Looks like they just wasted 43 million.

And Like Crazy is limited release now and the tv ads look soft but it's a $200,000 2011 Sundance award winner that sold for $4 million.
 
It's very clear that you're saying, "I'll be getting a Scarlet-X but here's why I'm also keeping my DSLR..." and I don't know why so many have missed that and taken your post as straight Red-bashing.

Especially since everything you say is correct, and are exactly the reasons that I too want a Scarlet-X but will be keeping a DSLR.

Thanks for the great post.

Daniel Kunz said:
I have found that using a Sony NEX 5N even improved my shooting since i took it almost everywhere because of it's size.
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I've had the exact same experience. (well, the original NEX 5, but still)
 
Yeah, the knee-jerk reactions to anything critical of Red don't really help. I've come to the conclusion that there is a percentage of the population that can be characterized as true believers. It could be religion, cars, sports teams, cities, countries, singers, their own children, operating systems, NLE's, lenses, cameras. I probably fall into a few of those myself.

The point is that a true believer's beliefs are actually axiomatic. E.g. New Yankees = Good. No discussion, argument over. (If that just gave a pang of hell ya? or no EFing way!, then you're a baseball team true believer too.)

The point of all this is that true believers' statements can be insightful, entertaining and infuriating. The person making the argument can also be as intransigent as a geometry postulate. Parallel lines never meet... it took Einstein to argue effectively against that one.

So hang in there Daniel, what you said about taking stills makes pretty good sense to a lot of us. For the others, what can you do? Just don't start talking sh!t about Derek Jeter, and you're alright by me ;)
 
Greetings Daniel,
Thank you for the time and effort in writing your post. I own a 5D, GH2 and an iPhone and will use them in conjunction with RED products as the project dictates. Love the amazing amount of creativity and engineering that is flowing our way. It's a great time to be alive and making art!

Cheers!
 
Stills and motion work how I make a living. I have no intention to sell a dedicated still DSLR. The interesting thing about Scarlet X (and EPIC) is the DSMC mindset. You can shoot stills and motion. Already we've seen some tremendously high end work down with the EPICs in the fashion world. Every camera has it's pros and cons. It's more about seeing what you as a user and shooter can create with these tools.

One thing I'm damn sure on. I have 42 lenses that can be used on a Canon mount and now those can be used on Scarlet X. Red is costing me money this year, but I won't have to start from square one when it comes to glass. That I'm insanely grateful for.
 
Is this the right thread to post that:

My Canon 5D II with grip is up for sale to make space for Scarlet-X. It's in "as new condition".

If interested, PM me. :)
 
Also, EOS 50D converted to PL is up for sale too....again, to make space for Scarlet-X :)
 
Never gonna sell my Canon, but I was actually thinking about buying a Hasselblad film camera for some stills fun.
 
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At last, a sensible thread about Scarlet's real, actual shortcomings. Firstly, I can't imagine why anyone who was shooting purely stills would swap from a FF35 sensor to a DX sized sensor, square or otherwise. If you're a shoot one frame at a time kinda shooter then what you need is a DSLR or, if you want real quality, a Phase One or Blad. (Jim, please make us a 4x5" back with Redcode)

Seems to me the biggest hurdle for Scarlet is the enormous boat-load of misconceptions it's carrying with it. It is not for everyone. For me it will give me the choice of Nikon again because I don't need the video capabilities of the Canon, a choice I'm really, really happy to make. My kit (as soon as I have the money) will be Nikon glass and both Nikon and Scarlet bodies. People complain about the cost of setting up a Scarlet. What I'll save on a 35mm sized tripod will pay for my lenses and what I save on PL glass will buy me a... well, a house:-)
 
@ Steve, Peter, Lee, Josh, Phil and Shane.
thank you for your welcome and your thoughtful responses. Great to see that some of you actually read before replying! thanks for your time and appreciation!
 
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Steve Sherrick said:
Not sure if you are being facetious or not but I would answer your question by saying people who want to make money. Some may find weddings low art form, but personally I think people who shoot weddings and do a really good job of it should be given more credit. There's a ton of pressure with wedding videography. You miss the moment, have a tech failure, etc and it can just about ruin your career or at least your psyche. I have a lot of respect for the good wedding videographers. In fact, I like to shoot one every once and a while just to see how on top of things I am. So back to the money part, unlike many struggling filmmakers, wedding videographers tend to make decent money. Now those struggling filmmakers may argue they'd rather be poor than shoot weddings, and that's fine but the successful wedding videographer could probably be doing both. Just food for thought.
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Friend of Mine does about 10 weddings a month, makes about $50,000 per month and drives Ferrari and shoots on 60D.....go figure.
 
Kacey Baker said:
Regardless of my own low post count I just thought it was odd to jump on RED's own site with all guns blazing, highlighting Scarlet in such negative light. I could be wrong, maybe I am, I just wouldn't do that myself.

I can see you are angry Daniel, I'll come back and chat with you when you are feeling less heated.

Enjoy your day Daniel.
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Every time when people are "lost", especially women, they come up with that old Cliche'.......I can see you are angry....
 
Point 5. Whilst the statement to a degree is DMSC related it also mentions motion sequences, file size seems to be a common argument against the camera & frankly its a ridiculous point to raise or it is just plain naive. Obviously to solve this criticism everyone should be shooting H264 or DV25.
 
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AGAIN, Scarlet is not for wedding people. It's a professional cinema camera. people who do real indie short film, feature film. not for a soccer practice
 
Kacey Baker said:
I'm surprised that this thread has not been closed. With only 10 posts I must say you're very brave lol - It's like knocking on the door of a good Samaritan and then shitting on their verandah before the door is opened to invite you in LOL :smiley:
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No, no . . . it's like Tommy Boy: "Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it."

Really Kacey, Let's have some diversity in thought here. Daniel's post is solid and thought provoking. RED is not a "good Samaritan" - they are a corporation that is supported by customers like me and other adults who can read and make up their minds without filters and bans. I look forward to more from Daniel in the future.
 
Pascal Payant said:
AGAIN, Scarlet is not for wedding people. It's a professional cinema camera. people who do real indie short film, feature film. not for a soccer practice
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i agree . . . but only for the day of the wedding shooting which needs to be done in a run/gun style. For the rich bride who wants it all, Scarlet is perfect for making a cine style romantic, sexy and dramatic pre-wedding film. There is a emerging industry here that small operation RED users might want to investigate. Less pressure than day of wedding shooting - which can be done by others. It's like shooting some with a old film based Hassy or Rolli - just gives the event a different vibe.

On the day of the wedding I want two (wide and tele) Canon 5D's in my hand for stills and small prosumer HD Camcorders with XLR inputs and micro LED panels for motion and a couple assistants.
 
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