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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Resolve on PC

I think we all need to email black magic and tell them we want a PC....when I talked to them at NAB, they didn't believe there was a demand for a PC version....yet they pride themselves to be window and Mac compatible on all their hardware. Wish they would do the same with Resolve....
 
blackmagic is listening on here... they've already talked about it being a good idea, i'm sure. they've just got a business to run. such are many of us... in one way or another.
 
It will be interesting to see what BM have planned actually - especially with all the debacle regarding FCPX. I know I would still love to get my hands on a copy of it for Windows if it were one day released.
 
@Brad Allen
True, I think apple is abandoning the professional market by the release of FCPX and concentrating on the real money making business of being a phone company.. they think the mobile devices as a medium is the future.. they are turning from being a professional tools manufacturer to a media distribution solutions manufacturer.. Fair, but what I think is that they will not be able to force professionals to use non-professional tools to deliver content to their media market..
I think iphone and ipad are awesome.. ^^ but, not FCPX..

simply the market will start to change as soon as more trouble rise up on the apple systems like gamma shifts and lack of edl export, etc..

+1 for Davinci on Windows.. I'm bored of rebooting my computer to use davinci on my dual boot system.. also I'm sure it will be way faster on windows system as everything else..
 
Maz Mawlawi said:
I think we all need to email black magic and tell them we want a PC....when I talked to them at NAB, they didn't believe there was a demand for a PC version....yet they pride themselves to be window and Mac compatible on all their hardware. Wish they would do the same with Resolve....
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I am surprise they would believe so. Seeing how there are many here purchasing a Mac only for Resolve, Resolve on Windows seems like a very valuable and lucrative product to pursue. I hope someone from Davinci is looking at this thread.
 
Very odd you guys think a Windows OS has benifits over Linux based OS.......
 
Dave Blackham said:
Very odd you guys think a Windows OS has benifits over Linux based OS.......
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I am a fan of Ubuntu and Arch Linux, but let's face it, there are no professional (affordable) NLEs on Linux distros. It's just Windows or Mac. Not to mention the state of graphics drivers. Most NVIDIA/AMD GPU users are tied to DirectX and Windows and it only makes sense they put in a lot more effort to Windows drivers. This leads to OpenGL and CUDA performance being well ahead in Windows.

What benefit would you say a Linux based OS has over Windows?
 
Philipe Ratton said:
Having so much freedom to choose hardware might be one of the reasons BM doesn't make a windows version.
I bet a lot of people would be calling BM, complaining about the software not working just to hear " this hardware of yours is not supported" over and over and over again.
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I never ask Avid about problems related to my "unsupported" hardware not working with Avid. I solve it myself and if I ask I always explain that I don't have a supported system and that my question is more of an request for problem solving together with Avid (which in turn might give them info about certain problems).

Also, resolve is working on PC and linux so what you say isn't true either way. They just need to make a windows working version of the software. I think it's a little weird that they release the software for OSX 995 dollars but not for linux.


Dave Blackham said:
Very odd you guys think a Windows OS has benifits over Linux based OS.......
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It doesn't, but there are many who work with a lot of different softwares installed on one system, linux doesn't support everything.
Also, look at the price point for the linux version of resolve... not really an option. As long as linux isn't as flexible for my daily production It's not an option for me or many others. If you own a post production facility with a grading suite, then it's a different story, both in terms of workflow and economy.
 
i would definitely love to see resolve on a windows platform. i also don't think it's unreasonable to release the linux version software as an option. linux is totally the way to use that. windows would be my next choice, for many various reasons...
 
paulherrin said:
i would definitely love to see resolve on a windows platform. i also don't think it's unreasonable to release the linux version software as an option. linux is totally the way to use that. windows would be my next choice, for many various reasons...
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You do know, that there is a Linux version available, right? It just happen to cost $30k and it's only available from a reseller with a hardware package. You just would like it for $995:-) Why is Linux so much more expensive, you ask? For one, Linux allows up to 16 GPUs per node and it supports Infiniband for even more computing power. OSX is limited to "only" 3GPUs.
 
haha, i do know that it is available... not for me though. there's no way i can rationalize that as a personal purchase anytime soon. linux would be the more powerful choice, even if you couldn't use 16 gpus (which i wouldn't be anyways). but that's just me...
 
paulherrin said:
haha, i do know that it is available... not for me though. there's no way i can rationalize that as a personal purchase anytime soon. linux would be the more powerful choice, even if you couldn't use 16 gpus (which i wouldn't be anyways). but that's just me...
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So, if you do know, then what was your question? Were you skiing for $995 price then?
 
just opinions from me for now... no questions. and yes i would be appreciative if there was a release similar to the $995 version for mac, available on linux... i don't think that's unreasonable, but that's why it's my opinion.
 
Jake I think you're assuming that everyone is asking for the current $20k linux version to be made available for only $995. I think what people are trying to say is that there IS a version for Linux so why not offer an alternate Linux package that equals the current $995 Resolve offering on a mac. So two Linux versions: Linux Base and Linux ultimate - tweak the code so the base $995 version is restricted to only 3 GPU's etc etc and its a go. That way no need to jump into a big risky/costly RnD venture for a windows version (yet) as I would assume you could measure the potential for any future Windows version by the number of Linux Base units sold.

Its not perfect as for most of us PC editors we will be constantly rebooting to Linux for grading but its a lot easier than wrestling with a hackintosh and more importantly as far as I can see it would be doable on BM's part in a matter of months - so a few months tweaking code and BM could open up potentially thousands more sales at $995. I would hit the 'buy now' button this very second if it was available! :-)
 
You guys need to email black magic for a windows version. I did and actually got a response telling me they are evaluating the demand. The more emails they get, the better.
 
Paul Cook said:
Jake I think you're assuming that everyone is asking for the current $20k linux version to be made available for only $995. I think what people are trying to say is that there IS a version for Linux so why not offer an alternate Linux package that equals the current $995 Resolve offering on a mac. So two Linux versions: Linux Base and Linux ultimate - tweak the code so the base $995 version is restricted to only 3 GPU's etc etc and its a go. That way no need to jump into a big risky/costly RnD venture for a windows version (yet) as I would assume you could measure the potential for any future Windows version by the number of Linux Base units sold.

Its not perfect as for most of us PC editors we will be constantly rebooting to Linux for grading but its a lot easier than wrestling with a hackintosh and more importantly as far as I can see it would be doable on BM's part in a matter of months - so a few months tweaking code and BM could open up potentially thousands more sales at $995. I would hit the 'buy now' button this very second if it was available! :-)
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I'm not assuming anything Paul. Right now Linux and Mac versions are EXACTLY the same, operationally and functionally. The only difference is Linux supports 16 GPUs and Infiniband. So, what would be the point of crippling a Linux version and selling it for the same amount as a full, uncrippled Mac version?
 
I wasnt aware that the limitation was hardware based on the Mac. Either way clearly the point to a 2nd crippled Linux version would be to justify the price of $995 vs $20k. I said nothing about making it worse than the mac version for the same price - my suggestion was to make them equal. So if its a hardware issue then make a Linux Base package that is software restricted to a 4 GPU maximum (same as mac) and no infiniband support. Then BM still have their slice of the high end full powered market who want to drop $20k on top of the $30k for all that extra grunt.
 
Paul Cook said:
I said nothing about making it worse than the mac version for the same price - my suggestion was to make them equal.
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You keep missing the point, that they already exactly same right now in every aspect, except the OSX limitation of 3 rendering GPUs. And this is not because BM decided to limit the Mac version, it's OSX limitation. And so is Infiniband. You want limited software, get a Resolve Lite...
 
No Im not missing the point, you're missing MY point that whatever the reason, the current Linux license is a powerhouse allowing for much more complex / larger grades in realtime and thus worthy of its $20k commanding price. No one expects to get that for $995 BUT there are many Windows users who would buy a linux version at $995 (and install Linux of course) rather than buy a whole new mac or mess with a hackintosh. So currently for every 1 $20k linux licence BM sells - they are missing 10-20 (or more) potential Linux sales at $995 all because they cant sell the same Linux software at two different price points.

BUT

If there was a second Linux version that they coded slightly different so that it only recognised 4 GPU's and didnt support infiniband - thus meaning it performed EXACTLY the same as the mac $995 version, then they COULD capture both the $20k Linux crowd AND the $995 Linux non mac owning crowd AS WELL AS the $995 mac crowd.

I really dont know how to explain it any other way so hopefully its clear as mud now ;-)
 
FWIU, the real stumbling block to Windows Resolve is that there is a countless number of Windows PC configurations. It's simply too much to test.

BMD could decide to certify Resolve on only a few setups, mostly HP workstations (somewhat similar to what Avid does) and let those who want to go outside those requirements fend for themselves to a certain degree.
 
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