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"Lytro" a still camera who captures the entire light field around a picture

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Low resolution... and who doesn't focus their images?

Jim
 
Ha ha I like the Autotune analogy Billy.
And yes I hate Autotune despite it's pretty much everywhere.
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It's like the FCPX of digital photography sensors!!!...

All joking aside, my only concern is that it ends up costing a small forture to get it into bigger APSc or FF sized sensors, where post-focusing makes much more sense (artistically and functionally). Great tech, but still probably 10years out before it makes its way to (low-res) video cameras... My guess is it'll be in phone cameras sooner rather than later; they really should have sold out to one of the bigger guys as they could have pumped the tech into their entire consumer line-up.
 
Jannard said:
Low resolution... and who doesn't focus their images?

Jim
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Where did you see the resolution information ... I saw nothing that detailed.

As to who doesn't focus their images ... the answer sadly is most people.

The computer in their camera does all their focusing. Most people don't even try to influence how or where it focuses.

So, this feature isn't really for us, but it could be.

Ever set up an AC torture test? You know 85mm 4ft f/1.4, moving subject?

In looking at light fields ... there may be an interesting compromise useful to professional camera operators.

Don't capture the whole light field, just a range near the actual focal plane. Essentially giving a range in post in which you can adjust focus.

OK, why?

This gives us the ability to save a shot.

It won't compromise the system too much for resolution and light sensitivity.

Just a thought ...
 
Obviously the technology is far out from getting to a professional video market but this would be an incredible addition to the Red "raw" workflow. In my mind, the goal would be to still focus on set just as you always have but then have the ability to tweak your focus in post if need be. Interesting concept, long ways out I'd imagine in terms of integrating into video, especially high res video.
 
Saw the technology awhile ago. Resolution suffers to accomplish the variable focus. But I'm sure that it will be useful at some point for some things...

Jim
 
Tyler Bourns said:
Obviously the technology is far out from getting to a professional video market but this would be an incredible addition to the Red "raw" workflow. In my mind, the goal would be to still focus on set just as you always have but then have the ability to tweak your focus in post if need be. Interesting concept, long ways out I'd imagine in terms of integrating into video, especially high res video.
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I agree ... a long way out for most professional uses.

I'm willing to be surprised though. But a good surprise, not an FCP X sort of surprise.
 
I could see a (future) application for a single viewer experience. Add viewer eye tracking and realtime processing of focus resolution that tracks and 'focuses' on what the viewer is looking at, and you have a viewer experience that could be interesting. Add 3D imaging on top, and that could be quite interesting.

Or it could just give the viewer a splitting headache....
 
Jannard said:
Low resolution... and who doesn't focus their images?

Jim
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So much more potential than just focus. I think the refocus capabilities are some of the least interesting applications. Think bigger. ;) It would be like saying HDRx is "just more dynamic range".

As to resolution, 'supposedly' this implementation suffers from far less egregious resolution losses than previous attempts--but at the cost of lost of reconstruction artifacts.
 
Regarding auto tune, I would bet that a decade from now, people will back at it as "back in the day" and will not live on. It sounded new/different/cool for a season. Fads last a season. Art will prove itselfmin the long run...

I'm not saying the Lytro camera is a fad and that it cannot be used artistically. It will be interesting to see how the paintbrush evolves..
 
Mark Britton said:
I could see a (future) application for a single viewer experience. Add viewer eye tracking and realtime processing of focus resolution that tracks and 'focuses' on what the viewer is looking at, and you have a viewer experience that could be interesting. Add 3D imaging on top, and that could be quite interesting.
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good thinking. This would be similar to the real world experience where you can point your interest to a particular thing and automatically focus. In 20 years or so, digital cinema will be phantastic.
 
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