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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

NEW Final Cut to be Announced at NAB?

Álex Montoya said:
Adobe is the way to go.
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if you already run apple hardware, there's no reason not to buy fcpx at $299. even if i knew it was going to be the worst non linear editing software ever, i would still buy it just to maintain compatibility with the millions also buying it. now i sound like a microsoft consumer.
 
Given the new tech rolled into X, and that that way lies the future. I'm sure a lot of us Will be using it in parallel with 7, right from the get go.
 
Craig Schober said:
if you already run apple hardware, there's no reason not to buy fcpx at $299. even if i knew it was going to be the worst non linear editing software ever, i would still buy it just to maintain compatibility with the millions also buying it. now i sound like a microsoft consumer.
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Lol... but Microsoft users are much more conservative with their money...
 
Magnetic Timeline and Compound Clips...thats all I care about at this point ;)
 
Larry Jordan does have a good point though. I hardly ever run out and get the first generation of any apple product. Buuuut I think this might be an exception.

I've never upgraded my FCP (Still have Studio 2) so how does it work when you buy a new version? Does the old FCP stay on there until you delete it or does the new one completely overwrite it?

I really want FCPX but I would still like to keep my old one at least for a little while incase there are any kinks.
 
Seems like the headline is designed to get people buzzing but, while it is an actual quote, it is a little gratuitous. Jordan's statement is a generic one; don't ever count on the first release of an application to be "ready for prime time." Generally, this makes sense and probably will for FCPX as well. On the other hand, at least they have had a decade or more of development in the underlying app preceding it. So, if ever a 1.0 app should be at least pretty good, this might be it.

To those who are worried about the sky falling and claiming that Apple has abandoned the pro market, note that Jordan would seem to dispute that categorically. Among other statements affirming Apple's dedication to the pro market, near the end of the presentation he says, "Apple really, really, really, really wants this to be successful. Apple is committed to making this successful." :thumbup1:
 
Jerrod Cordell said:
Larry Jordan does have a good point though. I hardly ever run out and get the first generation of any apple product. Buuuut I think this might be an exception.

I've never upgraded my FCP (Still have Studio 2) so how does it work when you buy a new version? Does the old FCP stay on there until you delete it or does the new one completely overwrite it?

I really want FCPX but I would still like to keep my old one at least for a little while incase there are any kinks.
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With FCS (Studio) it seems to overwrite everything. However this time around Im betting that Apple FCPX will reside along any old install. I myself have been late in the upgrade game with FCS. We finally got FCS3 last Fall. For this one I wanna be a test rabbit ;)
 
Craig Schober said:
the only thing that matters to me (which has never been directly addressed) is will fcpx edit r3d natively?
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Agreed. Apple's Pro apps have undoubtedly been behind the curve. I think this update will bring FCP into a different direction/methodology in editing. Some will hate it, some will love it. But as long as they make software that works and stay current with technology I don't care.
 
Snow R. Shai said:
It's funny sometimes, how people get worked up so fast.
But I guess some people are like that, and that's OK.
All info around is mostly very positive, from my POV.
Especially since those recent MotionX screen captures.

My best App Store bet would be:
FCPX $300
Motion X $200
Color X $200
Compressor X $50
Logic X $300 [no Soundtrack Pro]
DVDSP is out.

I have no inside information. This is just what I think it's looking like today...
We will all find out real soon.
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Ive no inside info either but Im sure FCP X will be great for what it does. But Ill keep FCS3 running a long while yet Id guess, i believe both 7 suite and X could run on the same box but when its released we will know.

My guess is

FCPX $299
Motion X included
Logic X $300

All the clever pro apps suite stuff from other vendors.
 
My evolving take is that I'll keep using FCP 6, but I will buy test and slowly migrate projects over to FCP X.

As far as "whats in the box" I think that FCP X will have everything in the app ... sort of like Smoke (Which I haven't really used ... ) I think what you get out of the current FCS3 suite will be in FCP X itself.

The question is more one of interface than technical capability. For example, the color correction system we saw in the FCP X demo, and which Larry Jordan broke down for us. It doesn't work like any color application I have used ... and it seems much more shot based than scene or project based. (A criticism leveled at the color correction in Smoke as well.)

Here's the thing ... you have this feature they demoed where you can take a correction applied to one shot and make the other shots in s sequence look like the first one. That's disarmingly simple ... it isn't at all like gopying a grade from one shot to many shots.

See, when we copy a grade in Color today, it makes a direct copy of all the settings we selected on one clip. If each clip is different then after copying the grade, we have to adjust it. If all your shots are matched to each other perfectly, then you can tear through a movie very quickly. Most projects however need shot to shot correction before you can really apply a grade across a sequence.

In the FCP X demo, they had a sequence with shots that didn't match each other. They picked the shot the liked most, and graded that. Then they selected the remaining shots in the sequence and picked a menu selection that made them match the first shot.

Its a result oriented tool. You select or create the look you want, then you tell the program to make everything else look like your example. If it works it will revolutionize how I color a project.

There are a lot of open questions.

Will such tool carry over to secondary corrections? Well, it seems unlikely - but remember that FCP X has facial recognition and all sorts of other automated metadata and processing built in. So, if in a long shot I select Natalie Portman's face and do a secondary to brighten it, and a gentle softening of her skin tones ... then FCP X may well be able to identify other shots in my sequence of Natalie then identify, qualify and track her face and make the appropriate adjustments to make it look like my example grade.

What about versioning? That's a completely open question. No version of FCP has ever directly supported versioning for things like grades.

Supposing that versioning is supported, or if I simply change my mind will FCP X carry my changes through automatically? Its entirely plausible that it will ... after all it has metadata indicating (i.e. "it knows") that you tied the grade of a certain selection of shots to another specific shot. If its smart enough to do that ... can it do it bidirectionally?

What do I mean? If I have a sequence of 9 shots, and I grade shot 8 to create my desired look then copy that to the whole sequence, then if later on I choose to adjust the grade on shot 3, will FCP X automatically adjust the grade on the other 8 shots? Open question, but technically feasible with the toolset they demonstrated.

So ... will we really need a specialized grading application? My inclination is to say yes ... but that its also an open question. Its conceivable, though we may think it unlikely, that Apple has rewritten the book on how coloring/grading is done. Color, Resolve et. al. may be as obsolete as Wordperfect 5.0 ... or they may continue to represent the state of the art.

Will there be a Color X ? I think Color's technology is already clearly inside FCP X ... I think Color will be represented as a modal interface and less as a separate application. I could always be wrong though ... which is half the fun of speculating.

In thinking about this though I realize that third parties will continue to do what they have always done and fill the gaps in technology and interface in Final Cut Pro. If there is no color ... well Maybe Magic Bullet will proffer its interface in addition to some of its preset looks ... you know like it already does. Also, I think we can expect to see a Baselight plug in to FCP X, like there is for FCP 7 ... and so on.

If its really a dire situation ... You can always stick with FCP 6 or 7 and Color 1 or 1.5 ... or migrate to Resolve or whatever suits you.
 
Eric Santiago said:
Magnetic Timeline and Compound Clips...thats all I care about at this point ;)
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Add 64 bit compatibility (no more "out of memory" error messages), use of ALL CPU cores (FINALLY), background rendering...

I know many people fear change, or probably more accurately, get into a comfort zone, but I like the new UI and editing paradigm. I was one of those who never used the viewer, and saved custom layouts without it.

For sure I'll keep FCP7 on my machines, but I'm ready to move forward too.
 
Just tried to buy it :(
I guess its US only first :P
 
Looks like that. I don't even see any "Buy" button or something. I'm on Croatian store :/
 
Motion 5, Compressor 4 and FCP X for $400 - an excellent deal! Looks like Color, Soundtrack and FCP are now combined in FCP X. Sadly, seems like no native editing for R3D by the looks of things, which is deal-breaking. Just about everything else is listed though. The rest seems like playing catch up. Look forward to trying it out anyway.

I think Apple have a winner though, in terms of value for money. (who would have thought Apple would be a VFM leader???)
 
cant find it...is there auto audio syncing based on TC?...the plural eyes combo was shown in the demos though.

edit: auto audio sync based on TC is in. good
 
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