Zeiss ze compatible with Scarlet?

[paolo baroni]

hey Monteiro!
i think there are no issues with the sensor size even if you film 5k so good for epic too
i film mostly handheld with shoulder rig...100 is way too shaky....i think the 50 is the max....then if you are on a tripod go over.....100 macro is a beast!
check out my test
https://vimeo.com/45950663
in the closups i used 35mm 1.4......it's already shallow between one eye and the other...and it was stopped down to 2.8 til 4
cheers

 

[paolo baroni]

To me the DSLR stills look sharper even at the same resolution.

sharper??? really red can see beyond human eye...maybe you have backfocus issues if you say so...or you put a plastic lomo lens on the red and a zeiss prime on the canon

 

[JR Monteiro]

hi guys
just to let u know
i have zeiss zf2 21-35-50-100 , used on scarlet at 4k with no issue except the infinity focus due to the adpter ring nikon to canon
sample of 35 f1.4 in this footage all beauty shots

https://vimeo.com/45950663

cheers

Hi Paolo,
Could you tell us a little more about what lenses on the close facial shots. Were the Zeiss lenses the only lenses you used? THe runway shots panning down to the shoes looked like a longer lens that the 100. Maybe you shot those at 2K?

Thanks

 

[paolo baroni]

just the beauty shots are zeiss from sec 09 to sec 59
the rest is nikon 28-70 and canon 70-200
ciao!

 

[Nick Morrison]

Can I assume if these lenses work on the Scarlet that they will also work on the Epic? Also Waleed just curious for close face shots like focusing on an eye or someones lip would you use the 100? Or will the 85 focus close enough I am trying to decide which of the two would give me most versatility. Thanks.

All the ZE/ZF lenses are FULL FRAME glass, so they will work at 4K, 5k, and presumably 6k and beyond. Their image circle is larger than the Epic/Scarlet sensor. It will be even larger then the new Dragon sensor.

For close focusing, the 35 1.4 and 28 f2 have "floating elements", that allow them to focus EXTREMELY close. Not macro, but in that range. For hand-held beauty shots of eyes and lips, etc they are ideal.

I own both lenses in their one generation back Contax form, and use them all the time for this.

 

[Nick Morrison]

Hi Tom, Do you also have a Canon body as well? I was thinking of getting one as a "B" camera with the same set of lenses for both. I have always had a hard time matching the footage although I never used the same lens on both. I was wondering if you have ever compared frame grabs pulled from the Red with those of the Canon. To me the DSLR stills look sharper even at the same resolution.

Because the DSLR "bakes in" a look, you are going to have to shoot with very FLAT settings in order to give yourself more latitude in the grade to match the RED. Sticking to the same line of glass (ie all and only Zeiss, or Leica, or Canon, etc) will help with consistency of color temperature, contrast and bokeh. It certainly helps mix and max when the glass is consistent across cameras, especially if one camera doesn't have the flexibility of RAW.

I have a hard time imagining a DSLR being "sharper" than RED, unless you are looking at a baked in DSLR quicktime with lots of sharpness & contrast, and comparing it to a R3D in Redlog that looks very milky and flat. In that case, the R3D will "appear" less sharp, but that won't be the case. Also, once you OVERSAMPLE a 4k or 5K file DOWN to 1080p, you get an added layer of sharpness and cleanness you just cant ever get with a DSLR.

Hope this helps.