zeiss 15mm vs duclos 11-16mm

[Peter Osinski]

which lens would be better to go with a set of zeiss zf primes?

duclos:

11-16mm range
can be made in nikon mount
covers full frame at 15mm

zeiss:

15mm only
matches zeiss set
covers full frame
similar mechanics to rest of set
sharper?

 

[Shervin Mandgaryan]

The Zeiss 15mm.

The Tokina 11-16 doesn't hold a candle to what the Zeiss can do, plus it'll match your other Zeiss glass as well.

 

[Peter Osinski]

also 500 cheaper so thats good

 

[Dave Blackham]

The Zeiss 15mm.

The Tokina 11-16 doesn't hold a candle to what the Zeiss can do, plus it'll match your other Zeiss glass as well.

Im not sure thats correct. Each lens is an individual, Ive learned that many times. Both are stills glass but if your using the Duclos moded lens then Id vouch for their quality assurance in glass selection. Im sure the Zeiss is a fine lens but I have to say the Duclos is also a very good lens.

 

[Shervin Mandgaryan]

I'm not bashing the 11-16, I'm just saying the Zeiss is almost in a class of it's own. MTF tests and general reports conclude it's Zeiss's best wide angle prime (And arguably the best WA stills prime as well). If Peter is looking for a matching lens to go with his ZF set, then the Zeiss is the only logical choice.

 

[Matt Uhry]

also 500 cheaper so thats good

I think you're mixing up PL mount Cinevised versions with still lens versions:

In EF mount: Tokins about $600 and the Zeiss ZE 15mm is $2950.
in PL mount a Duclos Tokia is $3500 and the Zeiss CP2 version is $5700

The Stills version of the zeiss looks like it will be difficult to filter with it's quite large built in hood.

Like any lens purchase this will depend on your budget and needs.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

 

[Peter Osinski]

I'm not mixing it up. I'm comparing the $3500 duclos cinevised 11-16 (now available in nikon mount) with the $3000 zeiss zf 15mm (still lens)

 

[Nick Gardner]

But this one goes to 11.......

 

[Peter Osinski]

But this one goes to 11.......

true....but then again there is the wait list...choices choices. I remember you spoke very highly of your 11-16 when I bought that 9.5-57mm off of you

 

[Nick Morrison]

But this one goes to 11.......

HAHA.

 

[Lee Saxon]

zeiss:

matches zeiss set

Someone's been pulling your leg. They're definitely not a matched set.

 

[Peter Osinski]

i would think lenses from the same brand would at least be similar...either way I think I've made the decision to go all primes...zeiss 15mm it is

 

[Mark K.]

Good call, more than anything else - the Zeiss is a comparative dream to focus with.

 

[Jiri Vrozina]

Zeiss is better and sharper. But which camera will you use in 2013? Canon 1dc or Red with Dragon or Red without Dragon?
Zeiss 15mm is more Future Proof . Especially if it is CP.2. 14 blades, long focus throw, built like a tank and very little of distortion in Full Frame.

 

[Shervin Mandgaryan]

But this one goes to 11.......

That actually doesn't matter anyway since the Zeiss 15mm is wider.

The Zeiss is 15mm in 35mm (Full frame). The Tokina/Duclos is 11mm in S35 (1.6 Crop factor).

AFAIK if my math is correct, the 11-16 translates to about 17-25 in Full Frame, whereas the Zeiss is 15mm.

There's a common misconception where people think the 11-16 is the widest lens out there, and thats certainly not the case, especially not for full frame.

 

[Nils J. Nesse]

That actually doesn't matter anyway since the Zeiss 15mm is wider.

The Zeiss is 15mm in 35mm (Full frame). The Tokina/Duclos is 11mm in S35 (1.6 Crop factor).

AFAIK if my math is correct, the 11-16 translates to about 17-25 in Full Frame, whereas the Zeiss is 15mm.

There's a common misconception where people think the 11-16 is the widest lens out there, and thats certainly not the case, especially not for full frame.

11mm is wider than 15mm.
A Lens is a Lens is a Lens

The Zeiss covers larger sensor sizes than the Tokina, but then you're comparing sensor sizes, not focal length.

 

[Shervin Mandgaryan]

I'm only making the case for full frame and for F.O.V.

11mm is 11mm and 15mm is 15mm. I get that.

 

[Nick Gardner]

11mm is wider than 15mm.
A Lens is a Lens is a Lens

I think you are missing the fact that he's in Canada. There is the "Canadian Crop" factor. A Canadian argument only makes .6x the sense that an actual argument makes. Where as being European, your argument actually makes 1.2x the sense as a normal argument, so it's like 2.4x as rational as a Canadian argument. Make sense?

 

[Nils J. Nesse]

I think you are missing the fact that he's in Canada. There is the "Canadian Crop" factor. A Canadian argument only makes .6x the sense that an actual argument makes. Where as being European, your argument actually makes 1.2x the sense as a normal argument, so it's like 2.4x as rational as a Canadian argument. Make sense?

LOL, yes, I always suspected something like this was going on.

 

[Michael Lindsay]

I think you are missing the fact that he's in Canada. There is the "Canadian Crop" factor. A Canadian argument only makes .6x the sense that an actual argument makes. Where as being European, your argument actually makes 1.2x the sense as a normal argument, so it's like 2.4x as rational as a Canadian argument. Make sense?

Thank you Nick!