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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

You cannot output 4K RED from Color 1.5 / FCP 3

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After testing and testing it appears you really cannot output 4K files from Color 1.5 just yet.

When working with RED footage in Color you will notice you cannot set the Render proxy to full Resolution or you will get a cancelled render.

Also if you set the Grading Proxy to Full Resolution you get a black screen.

I heard Apple is waiting for something from RED...(Not sure if that's true.)

The only workaround I can find is to create 4K DPX files import them into Color and then it will let you set Render,Grading and Playback proxies to Full Resolution and output 4096 x 2304 True 4K files.

Can anyone at RED or other users confirm this. Are we waiting on a RED FCP3 updated plugin to be able to use the new Color 1.5 4K output with RED footaged as Apple advertised ?
 
DJ R said:
After testing and testing it appears you really cannot output 4K files from Color 1.5 just yet.

When working with RED footage in Color you will notice you cannot set the Render proxy to full Resolution or you will get a cancelled render.

Also if you set the Grading Proxy to Full Resolution you get a black screen.

I heard Apple is waiting for something from RED...(Not sure if that's true.)

The only workaround I can find is to create 4K DPX files import them into Color and then it will let you set Render,Grading and Playback proxies to Full Resolution and output 4096 x 2304 True 4K files.

Can anyone at RED or other users confirm this. Are we waiting on a RED FCP3 updated plugin to be able to use the new Color 1.5 4K output with RED footaged as Apple advertised ?
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didnt have the time to play around, but my guess is that half res. will work on a 4k export, and that we have to wait before we see full debayer export from Color.
 
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Cüneyt Kaya said:
didnt have the time to play around, but my guess is that half res. will work on a 4k export, and that we have to wait before we see full debayer export from Color.
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Yes that only seems to half debayer 2K into a 4K file. Not useful.
I'm not sure anyone doing 4K finish has a use for a half resolution debayer upres into a 4K file.

It would be nice if was just stated upfront what works and what doesn't work so far and not have to spend lots of time testing something to find out it doesn't work yet.

Apples video sure makes it look like it's all working.
Look at the working with RED Raw video here:
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/color/final-cut-integration.html#overlay-raw
 
all nle suites are stressing me right now a little bit.

avid:
everything has to be transcoded to their format. not resolution independet, cant spit out dpx files.

fcp:
no 10 bit RGB rendering inside fcp
half res export from color
everything has to be wrapped into QT Wrappers.

Adobe:
cant read Audio TC.
premiere cant export to dpx, its just stressing to send it to AE.

guess avid will stay like it is, it has its userbase, whish they would allow native r3d on the timeline like adobe.

fcp:
well if walter murch wants a tc window and gets it, everything is fine,
isnt it ?:)

adobe:
have my biggest hope on them, they seem to be the fastet regarding R&D. And enabling reading audio TC cant be that hard.



my dream NLE:

with the rocket in mind,
multi track RT redcode editing
export to DPX 10 Bit RGB
Can read Audio TC
has datahandling of Avid (did get in touch and enjoyed the mediamanagement)...and actual editing Flow (in my really small experience with avid, it seemed to me their software is more user friendly)
no gammashifts

and on top:
and now somebody is gonna kill me.......something like combustion with EDL support, speedgrade and scratch (come on lucas, i did say it....:) )
 
It's my understanding that an updated plugin from RED will take care of this and is due imminently- by Monday hopefully.

Noah
 
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That would be really great if RED had an update Monday!
 
I've output 4k prores Quattro files from Color. Proxy resolution set to full.
 
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