Will you shoot in Other County if it will cost you XX% cheaper

[Vigen Vartanov]

Will you shoot in Other County if

1. You can find location that you need.
2. you can find high educate English speaking crew .
3. You can find any equipment that you need .
4. You can find stage that you need .
5. You can travel in this country every day from Europe for 400 EUR
6. You will not need to pay taxis .
7. You will not have problems with Customs .
8. Rental price of equipment is cheaper that in your country .
9. If you will be secured and all equipment and stuff will be insured .

And More And More

At this moment Government of My country is working for TAX FREE Rules for any Film Industry .
And it looks like that everything in Film Industry will because more
cheaper that it is now . (about for -20 % ) .

Also please help me to calculate how much cheaper it will be for you .
I am ready to answer for all question about Rental Prices . Will be interest to collect prices from 5-6 Countries .

Let Share prices of some things - for example camera rental price
(daily ) and crew (daily ) .

 

[haophat]

shoot at home

shoot at home

Funny I Shot 3 commercials for France Last year in Northern California, Because the Euro was so much stronger than the dollar.
Not so the case anymore. But they are still looking eastward, because the high prices of equipment and Crew.

 

[Vigen Vartanov]

Funny I Shot 3 commercials for France Last year in Northern California, Because the Euro was so much stronger than the dollar.
Not so the case anymore. But they are still looking eastward, because the high prices of equipment and Crew.

Yes it was funny time , and best time for shopping in USA.

 

[Brent J. Craig]

Vigen, I think your post sort of answers itself.

Yes, there are certain low-budget or underbid projects that can benefit from shooting in foreign countries, but for the most part the hassles outweigh the savings. I'm sure some people can "found high educate English speaking crew" when they travel, but often the barriers of language, culture and work ethic make for a very difficult shoot.

In the commercial business, it isn't only the expense of travelling the director and producer, but often 20 to 30 clients and agency (who require first class accomodations) as well as piles of product, gear, color-corrects, etc. Nothing like having a crew sit around while 20 cases of next season's fashions wait at customs.

I know a certain amount of production from Toronto went to foreign locales this winter. I have spoken to several people who said it was only marginally cheaper (5-10%) and much much more difficult.

You will not need to pay taxis

I know those free taxi rides can be tempting, but I think many people will prefer to shoot at home.

 

[Nick Gardner]

Yes, there are certain low-budget or underbid projects that can benefit from shooting in foreign countries, but for the most part the hassles outweigh the savings.

Trans Siberian

Defiance

HBO's Elizabeth

Above shot in Lithuania

Black Dahlia, shot in Sofia, Bulgaria

Thats just of the top of my head in the past year or two. It can be a massive savings. I have shot in eastern Europe many many times, and if you are working in a country with good crews, it's pretty much good fun.

Nick

 

[Nick Wolf]

Safety And protection.

Put that on the list at the top if you want people from the West to spend cash in your Country.

DogDay.

 

[Rob Gardner]

If Americans or Brits have been to the country for any kind of serious production, they will be familiar with western standards of safety. But it is a very good idea to ask...

 

[N_Villers]

One of the many great things about shooting here in Budapest, Hungary is the 20% tax incentive. Add that to a recently weakened Hungarian currency and dramatic savings can be had. If anyone wants to learn more about shooting here please feel free to contact me.

 

[Frank Cueto]

I know locally there is a 40% refund incentive, plus it is part of the USA, so no hassles. almost like shooting in the good ole US of A.

-Frank

 

[Tim Whitcomb]

We offer a 20% CASH rebate for services and 16.2% CASH Labor rebate here in Oregon (USA) (only caveat is budget must be over $1M) and we have NO SALES TAX... incredible locations from mountains to deserts to the ocean and with the Canadian dollar stronger than the past, we are now stealing productions from Vancouver...(which they stole from us in the 90's)

TNT's LEVERAGE just left B.C for instance, and just agreed to 2 shoot here for 2 years and 26 episodes...

Twilight, and Untraceable got this credit... and HArrison Ford's CROWLEY is shooting here now not to mention The River Why (100% shot on RED) that shot this past summer and got the rebate. I repeat, this is NOT a Tax credit, but an actual CASH rebate that is paid usually within 90 to 120 days from end of production.

I believe Michigan (USA) also now offers a whopping 40% cash rebate.

So I think you will need to offer upwards of a 50% rebate in order to attract USA films...

 

[Brent J. Craig]

Here in Canada our dollar is now discounted 20% from the US. Our crews work much cheaper, our locations are cheaper, and we're much cooler to hang out with.

Oregon might have enjoyed a strong Canadian dollar for a year or so but we are back at a big discount.

No free taxis though.

 

[Nick Gardner]

Here in Canada our dollar is now discounted 20% from the US. Our crews work much cheaper, our locations are cheaper, and we're much cooler to hang out with.

On shooting in Canada -

there are certain low-budget or underbid projects that can benefit from shooting in foreign countries, but for the most part the hassles outweigh the savings.

Thanks anyways,

Nick

 

[Fredrik Callinggard]

Yes, there are certain low-budget or underbid projects that can benefit from shooting in foreign countries, but for the most part the hassles outweigh the savings. I'm sure some people can "found high educate English speaking crew" when they travel, but often the barriers of language, culture and work ethic make for a very difficult shoot.

Hmmmm and I find myself traveling all over the world.

South Africa for the Europeans

Argentina for the Americans

and so on... the list is endless

I find myself shooting everywhere but in the country which the commercial is intended for and that's for 2 simple reasons.

1. It's cheaper (even with hotel and travel budget included) and language barriers, cultural and work ethics differences doesn't give more weight then money.

2. Agency and client wants to go on holiday :biggrin:

I think you're completely wrong in your statement. I can give a long list to why you travel to different countries all over the world for different kinds of shoots.

The answer is YES we travel everywhere for mainly budget but also location and or crew.

Ohhh and YES... I don't travel Economy :tongue:


Edit: PS I just shot a Canadian Coca Cola campaign in Lithuania for those reasons.

 

[Tim Whitcomb]

Here in Canada our dollar is now discounted 20% from the US. Our crews work much cheaper, our locations are cheaper, and we're much cooler to hang out with.

Oregon might have enjoyed a strong Canadian dollar for a year or so but we are back at a big discount.

No free taxis though.

wow, that sucks the CAN $ has dropped that much already...

and was not trying to ding Canadians, I ski at Whistler all the time and usually do sound feature mixes at Sharpe Sound in North Van... versus LA

but I have to challenge you on the "much cooler to hang out with"...

you obviously never heard of our legendary Oregon Kind bud... ?

 

[Cüneyt Kaya]

Trans Siberian

Defiance

HBO's Elizabeth

Above shot in Lithuania

Black Dahlia, shot in Sofia, Bulgaria

Thats just of the top of my head in the past year or two. It can be a massive savings. I have shot in eastern Europe many many times, and if you are working in a country with good crews, it's pretty much good fun.

Nick

hostel

 

[Vigen Vartanov]

Vigen, I think your post sort of answers itself.

Yes, there are certain low-budget or underbid projects that can benefit from shooting in foreign countries, but for the most part the hassles outweigh the savings. I'm sure some people can "found high educate English speaking crew" when they travel, but often the barriers of language, culture and work ethic make for a very difficult shoot.

In the commercial business, it isn't only the expense of travelling the director and producer, but often 20 to 30 clients and agency (who require first class accomodations) as well as piles of product, gear, color-corrects, etc. Nothing like having a crew sit around while 20 cases of next season's fashions wait at customs.

I know a certain amount of production from Toronto went to foreign locales this winter. I have spoken to several people who said it was only marginally cheaper (5-10%) and much much more difficult.

Good day , I agree with you about culture and work ethic , it will be
different in any country , but trust me you need to try it and you
will found that it is same . For me on set day in Europe is same like on set day in Rep Of Georgia .
Everything is same , just jokes on set , and some things are
different.

 

[Vigen Vartanov]

PS I just shot a Canadian Coca Cola campaign in Lithuania for those reasons.

Can you please share budget of this commercial with me . Want to understand Price Ranges in Lithuania .
Also re-calculate it with Local Georgian Prices.

 

[Vigen Vartanov]

Here are 12 reasons why to film in Georgia, but there are more:

1) Wonderful locations - In only 69000 sq.m there are 11 different climate zones in Georgia. This means that on the same day you can shoot snow scene, seaside, desert, green scenery or any other type of nature you might need.

2) Georgia is an ancient country - Historic locations, churches and castles that dates back to the 1st century is one thing, and ruins of a city from 14th century, now laying underwater, is completely different story.

3) Capital city TBILISI, is a city that was founded in 5th century, it is a unique city, by its landscape, architecture and people. This city is no like any other city in the world, because it is a place where Asia meets Europe, and this fact can be felt in every stone of the old town.

4) Filming in Georgia is very cost saving process – as an example, a typical filming day of TV advertisement could cost very low .

5) You can find highly skilled English/Russian speaking crews in all aspects of film production in Georgia.

6) Even though, currently the biggest film studio is going thru renovation, and highest standard film production equipment, DI, post production and film lab is on its way to be all installed by the mid of 2007, highest quality production equipment is already available in Georgia.

7) Georgia is a heart of Caucasus region, and 2 other countries, Azerbaijan and Armenia is in as close as your hand could reach out, so when filming in Georgia, your filming locations are not limited by only Georgia, you have very easy access to whole Caucasus region, which is even more diverse, there is all you might imagine from oil pumps in Azerbaijan to Armenia’s world famous mountain Ararat.

8) Other than richness by nature, our country is a location which could represent the typical Soviet/post Soviet republic, so if your scene is about Soviet Union and you need to recreate the times of Gorbachov, there is no place better than Georgia to do that.

9) Georgia, as a historically and culturally rich country could be a good source for documentaries.

10) Today, Georgia is becoming as modern as it is ancient.

11) State taxation is very liberal in Georgia, so as a bottom result, this is another reason why your costs are lower in Georgia.

12) Georgian people are very hospital people, thus your stay in Georgia will be one, unforgettable experience.

 

[Vigen Vartanov]

Also some pictures from 3 Regions

 

[Rob Gardner]

Nice locations, Biba. Is there a large enough production company there to supply all departments -- Costumes, props, makeup/hair, locations, craft services, transportation, grip and electric and so on? What about production management and organization (payroll, local permits, customs, government relations and so on)? What is the largest production you have handled there recently in terms of budget and the number of personnel?
Thanks
Rob Gardner