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Why the JVC DT-V17L2DU when it seems so archaic?

Stephen Pruitt

Stephen Pruitt

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Hi all. . .

In looking for an on-site monitoring solution, I keep seeing the JVC monitor come up. But, for the life of me, I can't imagine why. Yes, it has native HD-SDI, but it also has a very poor contrast ratio, a very high price, and a very low resolution (only 900 lines). It seems to me that almost all of us would be better off running a 35' cable via HDMI into a nice Sony or something and saving at least 50% in the bargain. What am I missing?

Stephen
 
The RED only outputs 720p at the moment. Don't know when that will change. The JVC gives you 1 to 1 on that easily. I'm not an expert on this, but I have the 17 inch already and use it for grading on my Mac, and I think it's contrast is good. Other people have also been pleased with it. I think it'll give you more accurate colours than if you were to use a computer monitor to view it. And everything digitalfx said too.
 
I really don't know. . . but how about this one?

http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/sony-lcd-tv/sony-kdl26s3000.html

It's only 720p, too, though.

I'm not interested in grading or color. I just want to see a good sharp picture so that we'll know what we're shooting. We ran into a problem on set just this past week where we didn't see dolly track in a shot on the little 5 inch RED monitors out in the field (literally), but there it was on the 30 incher in the studio. In my opinion, anyone trying to color correct on set is either seriously, seriously good, or seriously, seriously nuts.

As for portability, I can't imagine that running the JVC off batteries could be any easier than running a Sony off an inverter from a car battery.

Can't get the car close enough to the set? No problem. That's why God invented 10 gauge stingers.

Need to have the monitor further than 100 feet from an outlet or a car battery? I envy you. You must be shooting in some pretty great locations!

Anyway, I just can't see what the big deal is on the JVC. I'm just wanting to see something clearly in my video village.

Stephen
 
I think the main reason for getting something like the JVC (never used any of these btw, so just reguritating what iv read elsewhere, and what id hope to get from paying that amount of money) is the ability to calibrate the monitor.

Now this doesnt mean that you are going to colour grade on set. But it allows you at least a better reproduction of what your picture is going to look like. Too many times on a feature i was on the DP( who wasnt to experienced i have to say. Very small indie feature) trusted the LCD ON the camera, and as a result what he thought was "nicely warm" ended up garishly orange.

With a calibrated monitor on set you could look at it an confidently say that, "we will be able to do something with that"

Now this wasnt a red, it was a HVX, with a DP that wasnt great...BUT i think the same still applies. Having a monitor on set that isnt calibrated is making it hard for yourself. THat said if you just want it for framing, get the Sony. But be aware that contrast and colour are not to be trusted on anyway.

Last thing to think about...when you look at an image, do you not also always notice colour and contrast?
 
I think with a camera like red, the importance of having an expensive monitor for color and focus on the set is not important at all. In fact, with red, you can go back to using crappy monitors like they do in million dollar studio film shoots. Why?, because in film, all that is important is reference & composition and having a good DP and Focus Puller and a trusty tape measure......same goes for red. We've all seen it time and time again. Video Assist setting up chap tv's for video village and low-res lcd's mounted on top of the film cameras for the focus puller to watch. So Stephen, I think you'll be A-Ok with getting a Sony Bravia as an on-site monitor. Just make sure you have a good crew. Expensive field monitors are more needed for non-raw type cameras, from HDV-to-HDCAM.
 
hi

has anyone of you jvc 17'' users outhere have experienced some problems with white edges around the frame...I just got one of these monitors last week and I can notice some left and rights side of the screen white bursts lights and it is very annoying...
 
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