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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Why is RED often just a B camera in Hollywood?

Jannard said:
Beaks: And shooting with the Red One camera. How was that?
Proyas: It was great. There was a huge learning curve. We were one of the first films to use it on such a scale, and we had quite a few of them on the production. But it is really the future. There's no going back for me now. It was my first digital film, and this particular camera is quite extraordinary; they're improving them all the time. My next film I'm going to be shooting on this camera called the Epic, which is the next generation. It's a 5K camera, so it's a step up again in resolution. I love clarity in an image. I'm a big fan of films shot in 70mm and being projected in 70mm - and all the large formats. So this film, digitally projected, looks extraordinary. There is no grain. It's got a clarity. You feel like you could reach out and touch the actors or step into the scene; it's almost a three-dimensional quality. I'm completely hooked on the format.
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interesting... is he going to be the guinea pig, and that film you said would be shot entirely with the new modular camera?
 
i dont feel 5k, 6k or 21k etc is the future... 3D is. Im kind of tired of 2D, either im nuts or ahead of my time lol but mark my words one day people are gona shoot 2D for artistic reasons like black and white hehehe just kidding. But i do think 3D should get more attention. Im glad the 3D scarlet system is coming soon :)
 
cinemano said:
i dont feel 5k, 6k or 21k etc is the future... 3D is. Im kind of tired of 2D, either im nuts or ahead of my time lol but mark my words one day people are gona shoot 2D for artistic reasons like black and white hehehe just kidding. But i do think 3D should get more attention. Im glad the 3D scarlet system is coming soon :)
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Not to put a negative twist on 3D, as I think it will be successful, but people were saying the same thing 30 years ago. 3D would end traditional filmmaking. And then it became a gimmick and people passed it off as a novelty. The difference this time around is that the technology is better and they are using the technology to tell better stories than the first time around. And it's expanding into sports, concerts, etc.

There will always be a place in my heart for the traditional 2D film. There are very few experiences in life that live up to the feeling that I get when I sit in a movie theatre and get immersed in a good film. 3D is a different experience for me. I enjoy it, but I'm much more aware of the technology rather than the story. It's more of an amusement park experience for me. But maybe that will change.
 
I like 3D, but I also find it a bit exhausting for a 2-hr. movie...

It's probably going to keep building in popularity, but I'm not sure it is a necessary advancement for cinema to take.

And I recall reading a bound volume of "American Cinematographer" for the year 1953 or 1954, I can't recall... but one of the first issues, like in January, had a headlined article that was titled something like "IS THE FUTURE OF MOVIES 3D?" and one of the last issues, like in December, had an article titled "IS 3D DEAD?"
 
perhaps 3D wont be exhausting or make us more aware of technology in the future.. I remember reading that people didnt like color at first neither.. they said people looked like salmons because of their skin tones.. In "Wizard of Oz" the film goes in color only when she goes into a magic place.. to explain the surreal colors to an audience not yet prepared. But i think 3d will become so natural to us that we cant imagine watching a flat film anymore at least not a new film. lets see :) It just makes me uneasy investing so much effort and money on films when a little voice is telling me: "this is gona look flat to people in a few years" .. hopefully im wrong and short dept of field with blurry backgrounds will be enough perspective and 3d illusion to keep us satisfied for more years to come.
 
"Knowing" trailer is in the theaters now and you can see it butted up against other film trailers on the big screen. It looks just as sweet as the others.
 
The answer to the OP is: Give it some time.

It will take some time for these cameras to shoot major films and for those films to come to theaters. David has already shot TWO films on Red, and they have yet to be released.

Also, the studios are risk averse. Why take a chance on a new camera that for the last year has still basically been in "beta," with ever-improving "builds"? Why risk that when the Genesis, for example, is a proven commodity that produces nice results?

Wait till Epic hits and then all bets will be off. The transition will be quite rapid compared to the rollout of Red One. Why do you think Panavision and Arri are trying to scramble to build next-gen cameras right now? They know what's coming.
 
Dunno... take a look at all the cameras that have been "B" cameras at one point or another in film history... and you'll probably end up with a list of all the cameras that have been "A" cameras at one point or another in film history as well.

So... what, me (or you) worry?

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